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p3d v 4 blurry textures

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hello all, sorry for that many questions that a post on this forum, but i need some answers..

ive recently purchased p3d v 4 and i think its great! really love it. there is only one problem. My textures are pretty bad and im not sure how to fix this. for example i cannot see the letters on the instruments of the pmdg 747. also, i cannot see the 3d grass at flytampa amsterdam. (at fsx i could and i know you can in p3d v 4 because ive seen it in videos) 

are there any tweaks to improve the textures in the sim like at fsx you could? 

ive posted already at the p3d forum on there website but i did not get an answer yet back

thx for all the help!

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Intel core i7 7700k 4,2 ghz

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3d grass might be an incompatibility issue with the latest sim and older version animations not working.  However, your system should not have any issues with resolution on the PMDG panel...any other texture issues or just the 747?

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3D Grass!  Is that included by default in P3D v4?  Or do you need an addon for that.

 

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flytampa's version is likely a different model as per OPs original post.

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If it's cockpit textures too, then it's not about texture loading.

Gotta be FXAA or you simply not having a high enough AA setting.

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7 minutes ago, bonchie said:

If it's cockpit textures too, then it's not about texture loading.

Gotta be FXAA or you simply not having a high enough AA setting.

Cockpit texture to. So if i understand, i need to turn off FXAA and use the higest AA setting? 

Are my settings maybe to high? Or is that not a problem?

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40 minutes ago, Gridley said:

3d grass might be an incompatibility issue with the latest sim and older version animations not working.  However, your system should not have any issues with resolution on the PMDG panel...any other texture issues or just the 747?

Yes, when im taking-off its blurry.. :(

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i use 2x ssaa ,no fxaa and 16x AF.2048 textures.vsync on with triple buffering also on.try that

 

 steve

 

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FXAA is almost certainly the cause of this, you don't need it enabled if you are able to run MSAA 4 or higher IMHO. FXAA is a shader which basically blurs everything, giving the effect of cheap anti-aliasing. It's generally used IF you are unable to get decent performance with proper AA, not in addition to it. FXAA will degrade all textures in effect.

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Use MSAA instead of SSAA for better FPS. Also put Tessellation slider max to the right to avoid slow loading of ground textures tiles.

Mike

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16 minutes ago, Mikelab6 said:

Use MSAA instead of SSAA for better FPS. Also put Tessellation slider max to the right to avoid slow loading of ground textures tiles.

Mike

 

7 hours ago, BusheFlyer said:

FXAA is almost certainly the cause of this, you don't need it enabled if you are able to run MSAA 4 or higher IMHO. FXAA is a shader which basically blurs everything, giving the effect of cheap anti-aliasing. It's generally used IF you are unable to get decent performance with proper AA, not in addition to it. FXAA will degrade all textures in effect.

Thx for the advice. I will trie youre suggestions and see what will hapen!

Ronnay

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Do i have to put VSync on or off? Also, for the texture filtering, do i have to put it on anisotropic 16x? I have the AA at 8xSSAA

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Still the same blurry texture. In the distance..

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SSAA is quite expensive, so if your machine can handle that without bringing your pc to a crawl then sure. Also yes to the 16x. Blurry you mean the standard ground blurries at distance before textures load in?

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I added:

[MAIN]
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.33

Because I was having the same issue no matter what the graphical settings were.

Now I have no blurriness, no stutters, and acceptable FPS with very high settings.

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10 minutes ago, pracines said:

I added:

[MAIN]
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.33

Because I was having the same issue no matter what the graphical settings were.

Now I have no blurriness, no stutters, and acceptable FPS with very high settings.

Adding that is simply a waste of time.

With no FFTF added in the config the default is 0.33 you only add it when you want to set a lower setting.

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1 minute ago, Nyxx said:

Adding that is simply a waste of time.

With no FFTF added in the config the default is 0.33 you only add it when you want to set a lower setting.

One has to wonder why developers want dxdiag's and config settings and the like when submitting bug reports or issues. Every system is different, right? There has been several wonderful and complex attempts to help Ronnay. When I saw blurry textures in V4 I thought I would be sure the problem was solved, it was not. 

I guess you did not understand. I had blurries, now I do not.

I did the same thing with DTG Flight School months ago - very blurry and I had to add: 

[MAIN]
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.89 <<<< MUCH higher % and no effect on FPS or stutters for my system/setup. It should affect FPS/stutters somewhat, but on my system it does not. 

to totally get rid of the blurriness. That did the trick.

Besides, nothing else seems to have helped Ronnay - what harm would it do to try? Total time: 15-30 seconds to add it, and some time to test it. 

If Ronnay is not helped by this then its easily removed, if by chance it does help him like me, then great.

The deep technicalities behind this setting are unimportant to me. I understood Mr. Taylors explanation of this setting just fine years ago. As long as it does what I need it to, and it does, I'm good. Maybe it will have no affect on my next system, who knows.   

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23 hours ago, ronnay said:

hello all, sorry for that many questions that a post on this forum, but i need some answers..

ive recently purchased p3d v 4 and i think its great! really love it. there is only one problem. My textures are pretty bad and im not sure how to fix this. for example i cannot see the letters on the instruments of the pmdg 747. also, i cannot see the 3d grass at flytampa amsterdam. (at fsx i could and i know you can in p3d v 4 because ive seen it in videos) 

are there any tweaks to improve the textures in the sim like at fsx you could? 

ive posted already at the p3d forum on there website but i did not get an answer yet back

thx for all the help!

Do you have dynamic 3d autogen turned on?

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27 minutes ago, pracines said:

Ronnay is not helped by this then its easily removed, if by chance it does help him like me, then great.  ....what harm would it do to try?

I know you're trying to help but its the default setting its pointless adding it. All you doing is telling him to add something that is already there you just cannot see it my default. Doesn't matter how long it takes its completely pointless.

FSX used .33 as default and so has P3D. I have never in 10 years seen anyone use 0.89, OMG!..0.89 lol

Ronney you mind find this  useful ?

 

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I'm wondering if we are absolutely positive the default FFTF % was not lowered significantly due to the commonality of multi core processors and for performance increases. But the rise in autogen complexity increases the need for the original 33%. Just a thought, because I have no idea.

Long ago FFTF was said to be unnecessary with multi core PC's  https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ptaylor/2007/05/11/tweak-of-the-week/

Andre's idea was good, I personally had to turn off speed trees because of the FPS hit, so I was blurry w/o speed trees myself. But this may be a factor for Ronnay's setup.

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I Will try the fiber time frame fraction tweak and Will See What Will happen. Also, I'm going to watch the video! Thx for all the help and support. Really appreciate it!

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Is there a way I can put my screenshots in the forum? So I can show you.

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