C'mon Neil ! You actually think people should read before they buy? Tongue in cheek.

yea Neil have right...i found the printscreen excellent. and before i ve bought the PMDG 747 ( which is given in one complete block) without hesitation... i ve thought it was the same for this 757...but in fact no....no 2D panel...no Working FMCi ve downloaded the 2D panel from AV sim...but the installation is HARDDDWhen we pay..why DONT WE HAVE A F**** 2D panel with an installer!!!!!i m really upset by their commercial behaviour. and in a lot of forum i ve seen player who are not happy with buying this ad on...it is not because of the quality (because the virtual cokpit and the add on option are really grat) but its the way they sell it,and will they announce us that we will have to buy too the block F?? of course i m sure of itso just to have my revenge, i ve downloaded their 707 from Emule...and this one i will not pay . thank Emule... i ve now my revenge and my money is back, i ll never buy again any captain sim product.But i will buy all the PMDG seriesHooo PMDG add on are so complete..and so good...and u received one pack, with a complete FMC working, a 2d panel...Long life to PMDG Team!!!!! they don't have such commercial behaviour like captain sim.

look the Captain sim website to see how far they went in their commercial behaviour:each block is a payware, but in fact u need all the block to play (because if u pay , its for having a complete aircraftso for the 757 u have to pay:block A, exterior model: 9.99$ (psycologic price, its 10$ in fat)ok u pay a payware...but u have only the exterior...oh there is another block...it must be the whole plane..Block B: 24.99$ ..ho now i ve pay for a virtual cokpit...but my plane still be incomplete..oh the block C: 4.99$ (just a small configuration manager..but 5 $)ho but the sound are hawfull..why???ho i forget to buy the block E: 6.99$9.99+24.99+4.99+6.99= 56$ 56$!!!!!!!BUYT THE PLANE STILL NOT BE COMPLETE.......thank you captain sim to consider your guest ( like me who pay all this, i m dumb sometime, but i was so sure that the aircraft was complete at this price) like a BANKI willnever buy anymore their product...and i hope all here can understand why i m upset, i ll meet captain sim on Emule now..sorryi ve now downloaded complete cracked version of the 727...and the 707..work fine...and COMPLETE aircraft...sometime i ask myself why we payas i said before i have my revenge now...they lost a guest because i was going to buy the 757,727,707 both....

That will teach them a lesson.....start using pirated software. Great for the whole FS Community. Craig

To be fair, all of this information is available to you BEFORE you purchased on their product and purchased pages. As well as plenty of discussion of the topic in their forums. Plus they even included the manual free which states it again! If you read it before handing your credit card over you wouldn't have this issue. Their premise, and they are right to a point, is some people just want to hand fly or use simple navigation without complex systems. Some want to fly with a 2D cockpit only, some like VC's. By using this block system this gives the customer choices. The mistakes they made, was assuming people who used the VC wouldn't also want a 2D cockpit! (They are working to correct that now) Some how they got the idea a VC was enough. Also it would have been better had all the blocks been available to purchase. One of their premise for the block system though, was to make available each section which was done first, for those that didn't want to wait for the complete package.BTW it's not too smart to publicly announce you are getting revenge here by pirating their software. In case you didn't know it Piracy is illegal, and could put you in legal jeopardy should CS choose to take action against you. They do read this forum at times. Also promoting Piracy or other illegal activity is a violation of AVSIM rules, and is not tolerated under any circumstances, so this could and probably should get you banned from here!! In other words you may have just :-hang yourself here!!

Yeah watch out for PMDG in this respect too. Criticizing them is a big no-no.

Good lord....I've seen it all now.

Have I read that correctly and someones just admitted to downloading and using pirated software? If so theyve just left themselves wide open to prosecution havnt they?!Richard

he didnt admit to using pirate software, he promoted the use of it, it's different.However, there is a point to be made that discruntled purchasers that get no satisfaction from the payware group (either real or imagined) might resort to pirateware because there is no risk, they arent losing their money. If they dont like it they simply delete it and move on, no financial risk, and the possibility of being "caught" is nill, the payware companys cant catch the crackers and cant track newsgroups or P2P users and their "Tracking" modules dont work through firewalls and the like. So I think this payware practice of saying "you bought it, your stuck with it" will drive pirateware. Flight1 has a great policy to curb this by offering a 30day refund, I think thats great!

hahahahau want to afraid me?loli m not afraid..i always buy ad on, like the PMDG seriesBut here, i felt offended, that s why i did piracy.then here, it s a forum..where we are freee to give opinion...quite like a blogi ve spent hundreds and hundreds dollar to buy all the f*** stuuf for FS2004: active damera, passenger, plane add on..ect.. so i think i can hack 2 add on because i wwas deceived of the one i ve bought..and they will never return me the money....That s life guy

yea i m completly agree with you.The point i ve made here is not to tell people that they must crack all add on...god no..such add on like the ATR 72 flight1 or the PMDG series NEED to be boughti admit my error: i ve bought the 757 to fast, that s my problemi ve spent more than 55dolars in the 757 for in fact finding i cant set the on borad computer because the system package was not realese..and there s no 2D panel..SO i m really deceived...i ll not fly with it, its not interesting for me when the plane is not in full realism (those who cant understand are: no comment )Someone know if maybe they can give me my money back? if they can i promise to delete the 707 and the 727 i ve downloaded on Emule

i ll meet captain sim on Emule now..sorryi ve now downloaded complete cracked version of the 727...and the 707..work fine...and COMPLETE aircraft...sometime i ask myself why we payas i said before i have my revenge now...they lost a guest because i was going to buy the 757,727,707 both....he didnt admit to using pirate software, he promoted the use of it, it's different.No he actually admitted using it!!

Your just not to bright; are you. Craig

And??i think u talk u talk..but u didnt try to understand one word of all the things i ve said... u ve just focalized on the fact of piracy..but in any case u didnt tryto understand what i ve saidNice..when u will spent all the money* i ve spent in buying add on u will be able to talkafter having paid so much...i think i can permit myself give my opinion* here the complete list of the payware i ve bought:PMDG 747PMDG beecraft 1900DPMDG 737PMDG 737 800 900 upgradeActive cameraFSUIPCFS paseengerATR 72 flight oneFSnavigatorTraficEurowingsWilcofleet A380 ( not a good add on in my opinion too)Lveld 767 (one of the best too, like PMDG and ATR)COncorde ProfessionalA320 pilot in commandWilco CRJ 200757 Captain simand i wait the relaese of the MD11 by PMDG....and i m sure i ve forget of thingNow call me hacker because i ve downloaded 2 add on of the same editor that the 757 : i dont care.. not my problem if u feel frustrate because you are a low ID on emuleAnd u know i smoking canabis..but maybe u should call the police for them to take me in jail....

ho sorry..i forge to tell you that in my country smoking canabis is legal...the P2P is also legal...we have no law to forbid the peer to peerno guys i say you hello have a good day for those who have undersatnd my problemand those who just focalized on my "illegal downloade" go www.ampland.com to satisfy yourself, or maybe go register in the Net police to help them finding hackers lol