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Is it my Fault? P3D v4, now terrible performance, solutions?

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My P3Dv4 was smooth as silk and I was following my own instructions, go slow, add one thing at a time. Everything was great. Orbx Global, all regions, a hundred Orbx airports, Vector, OpenLC...still going strong, smooth as silk. Started adding planes, so far so good.

Loaded up V4 and still it was great. Then sort of went a bit wild, added REX4+Soft Clouds (the new hot patch), added my new Turbulent Designs, added loads of Norway freeware, yup still good but noticed a few stutters, added more planes and started experimentation with older installers on planes. I have my setting set appropriately for my machine and it was working great. Made no changes to settings. I have no tweaks in my CFG.

Spent three weeks building up and learning XP11, not touching P3DV4.

Last night and this morning I load up P3DV4, its a mess. Stuttering, pausing. What the heck?

I notice that my CPU reading, even after a clean reboot, is 100% when flying P3Dv4. I also notice that there is fluctuation in CPU slightly and it corresponds to my frames jumping all over the place, one second 6, then 30 back to 14 then back to 27, all of which are causing stutters and pauses.

So, now what! This had become unflyable!

1. I could start uninstalling addons in reverse order to see if its one of those.

2. I could delete shaders and let rebuild and see if that works.

3. I could reinstall P3Dv4 client, then go further.

4. I could start all over again, and not mess with old installers etc.

Gees this is a painful situation, more time messing than flying.

Advice, recommendations welcome!!

Bryan

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backup and delete Prepard3D.cfg and restart P3Dv4

 

You don't have to reinstall anything

IF the above does not work..Back your scenery,cfg and delete and restart P3Dv4

IF the aboive does not work, Back up your DLL.xml. and exe.xml and delete them and restart P3Dv4

Same with FSUIPC.ini file too

Until you find the culprit file

 

Then put everything back in except the culprit file

And then remove half the entries in that "culprit"  file and eliminate which half is the offender in...and then do that half further into half the entries... This is called Binary search. 

 

This happens to me all the time ....One day I am happy and then I notice the stutter...and I have no clue when the offensive entry got in

 

Instead of breaking my head over trying to guess..I do this routine. I do the same when I suddenly start getting CTDs too.

 

TAKE COMPLETE BACK UP OF ALL THE FILES BEFORE DOING THE ABOVE EXERCISE! Non destructive search for the offender. 

 

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Just now, Manny said:

backup and delete Prepard3D.cfg and restart P3Dv4

OK guess it won't hurt as I don't have any extra tweaks.

I am just now trying to shader rebuild as well as that is also easy.

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I think it's very clear what happened. P3Dv4 got jealous of you messing around with XP11, and now you are paying the price! :)

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My system


I7-6700K  4.2GHZ overclocked
GTX 970 4GB 7GHZ GDDR5
RAM 16G DDR4 2133MHZ
ASUS Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Z170 Skylake DDR4 CrossFireX/SLI USB3.1 Motherboard

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46 minutes ago, 1st fltsimguy said:

added loads of Norway freeware

I try to avoid freeware. Is it v4 compatible?

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Just now, bills511 said:

I try to avoid freeware. Is it v4 compatible?

good point, in this case Actually yes they say they are V4 compatible, and while installing I tested the individual airports and didn't seem to have any issues.

I have just tried rebuild of shaders and cfg and this did not help, except the cfg rebuild of course looked great for minute but all the setting were very low, so I cranked them up to what they were before when it was running smoothly and got the same results.

I'll try a client reinstall and see what happens.

I also have a new TV monitor and was wondering if that might be an issue, so I move the sim over to my older Samsung 23" monitor and the results are the same, poor in the extreme.

Bryan

 

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Now trying a client repair, if that doesn't work I'll try the uninstall client and reinstall the same one. Not sure if it makes much difference than the repair but I'm taking it one step at a time.

If the client repair or reinstall fails, I suspect I will need to start all over again...which is not a great thought.

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Every action taken by me to rectify has failed. The sim is unflyable.

Tried the client fixes, nadda.

This sucks.

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Uninstall your addons and try again. Obviously "something" got corrupted OR is incompatible. Reinstalling the client puts the core sim back to default but won't affect addons.

You could try reinstalling the content.msi first and see if that clears it up.

I would delete the p3d.cfg ( rename if you need to save settings) and stay with the default cfg while you test.

Vic

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Also 8xSSAA turns my P3D V4 into a stuttering mess.  Use 4xSSAA.

 

Cheers

bs

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Again, look at how this is happening.  20 minutes into a flight.  Is that from anywhere, or from a specific location?  Things that take time like that in the sim are usually caused by a bad scenery bgl or a texture hunt taking place in the background.  There are utilities out there that will scan what the sim is looking for.  They take a while to read but are helpful in isolating problems.  They are not process viewers, they are file use viewers.  Can't recall the names but if you use google you can find these tools and they are a great help in rooting out problems with software add-ons.

John

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Hi Brian

 

You could also try deleting the generated files in P3D v4 Shortcut, as in Part 2 of the Tutorial below by Elaine:

 

Be sure to selectively allow your installed addons after restarting the Sim

Hope this helps

 

Kind regards

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Had the same problem a couple of days ago... A reinstall of the client did not help, a shader rebuild did not help, simply nothing has helped.

The problem was that I undocked a window from the sim. When I docked it again, frames raised from 4 to 25 again. In my case it was the FS2Crew command bar, that I have undocked and moved to another screen.

Best,

Holger

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1 hour ago, vgbaron said:

Uninstall your addons and try again. Obviously "something" got corrupted OR is incompatible. Reinstalling the client puts the core sim back to default but won't affect addons.

You could try reinstalling the content.msi first and see if that clears it up.

I would delete the p3d.cfg ( rename if you need to save settings) and stay with the default cfg while you test.

Vic

OK Vic, have not tried the uninstall addons but it has been on my mind. I'm thinking corrupted compatible is the target area.

Yes the client did nothing.

Have not done content.msi, not sure what that might affect.

I did delete the cfg, backup up the original, took screen shots of all my setting pages.

Rebooted the sim, rebuilt the cfg and when I turned it on, the frames were amazing and smooth but the sim setting were so low as to be ridiculously poor. I did not spend over $2000 for my new gaming PC for that of course. So I returned the settings to what I was using and the sim ground to a halt again.

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59 minutes ago, bean_sprout said:

Also 8xSSAA turns my P3D V4 into a stuttering mess.  Use 4xSSAA.

 

Cheers

bs

Thanks "bean", I then tried every aa setting, it made no difference which one I used, which in itself is interesting. I had been using 4xmsaa, not sure what difference it is supposed to make between MSAA and SSAA.

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Then I would repeat that exercise only this time restore the settings one by one and test after - or restore a small group and test - repeat as necessary.

Content is the default aircraft, etc. Doesn't affect scenery.

 

Vic

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1 hour ago, Cactus521 said:

Again, look at how this is happening.  20 minutes into a flight.  Is that from anywhere, or from a specific location?  Things that take time like that in the sim are usually caused by a bad scenery bgl or a texture hunt taking place in the background.  There are utilities out there that will scan what the sim is looking for.  They take a while to read but are helpful in isolating problems.  They are not process viewers, they are file use viewers.  Can't recall the names but if you use google you can find these tools and they are a great help in rooting out problems with software add-ons.

John

Mine starts as soon as I push the throttle to full on the runway.

I have tried several different planes and start locations, yes, thinking just like you said, nadda, no change.

I did however, shutdown and reset my system from 7% overclock to 15% OC, and it hasn't made on ioda difference, still the same.

I will do some more research into utilities, that could be helpful.

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50 minutes ago, Tokitaumelie said:

Hi Brian

 

You could also try deleting the generated files in P3D v4 Shortcut, as in Part 2 of the Tutorial below by Elaine:

 

Be sure to selectively allow your installed addons after restarting the Sim

Hope this helps

 

Kind regards

OK this is new on me...off I go for some more torture....lol.

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I give you credit for staying with your current install. By now I would be uninstalling the sim and starting over, afterwards I would only install the 1 or 2 aircraft and sceneries that I want rather than everything at once.

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1 hour ago, 1st fltsimguy said:

OK this is new on me...off I go for some more torture....lol.

lol!

If you have Lorby-Si Addon Organizer also try updating that, i think its at Version 1.15 now, along with SODE if installed..

 

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51 minutes ago, bills511 said:

I give you credit for staying with your current install. By now I would be uninstalling the sim and starting over, afterwards I would only install the 1 or 2 aircraft and sceneries that I want rather than everything at once.

I tried the repair provided in early post.

Interesting, I tried the repair, but I backed up every file first. And the results are much improved, but now I have micro stutters and pauses when panning and also of course my terrain.cfg is impacted so I would need to fix that for Orbx and UTX addons.

Thanks for the input, though. It almost has worked.

I think I will grap a case of beer, press uninstall and delete and clean off the drive and start over. I have only once in the past done this and I know that this will take me days. As I have tons, literately if you weighted them, tons of addons.

 

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4 minutes ago, Tokitaumelie said:

lol!

If you have Lorby-Si Addon Organizer also try updating that, i think its at Version 1.15 now, along with SODE if installed..

 

I do. But interestingly, I removed SODE and shut down my FSDT couatl thingee and GSX thingee, because I didn't trust them to not be the problem.

I give up. I'm going to just take several deep breaths press uninstall and delete according to that link you provided and do this all over again...argg!

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2 minutes ago, 1st fltsimguy said:

I do. But interestingly, I removed SODE and shut down my FSDT coutl thingee and GSX thingee, because I didn't trust them to be the problem.

I give up. I'm going to just take several deep breaths press uninstall and delete according to that link you provided and do this all over again...argg!

 

P3D v4 Addons should prompt for you to allow them after you have deleted the generated files so be sure to selectively allow only those that you think are not the cause of your issues.

For those added by the P4AO, you could try locating the addon.xml's (should be in /Documents/P3D V4 Addons Folder, if you installed default) and moving them out to a temporary location to allow P3D to boot without loading them.

This way you don't have to uninstall everything and you could selectively restore them.

 

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