Just now, simbol said:

The 737-700 / 800 aircraft model do not have night textures attached on the ground for this goal, instead it was designed to use Dynamic Lights, so if you turn DL off they are not there.

Simbol.

I quoted what Chris said and from what i understood he said that 600-700 work with legacy lights...I guess he was suggesting that the half way is for PMDG to implement legacy in 600/700 in the FUTURE...

3 minutes ago, earthdog said:

I quoted what Chris said and from what i understood he said that 600-700 work with legacy lights...I guess he was suggesting that the half way is for PMDG to implement legacy in 600/700 in the FUTURE...

Maybe, I don't own this model as I have only the 737-800 NGX, and all I can tell you is that this model has only DL lights.

If what you are experiencing is that you don't see any lights at all with DL disabled it means that your models don't have legacy lights installed.

Regards,

Simbol

I see the legacy lights with the 600/700 models but not the 800 model when DL is off

Just now, Cargostorm said:

I see the legacy lights with the 600/700 models but not the 800 model when DL is off

Interesting! I fly exclusively 737-700 and i cant see them...strange. Can you share a photo when possible pls?

Thank you

Just now, Cargostorm said:

I see the legacy lights with the 600/700 models but not the 800 model when DL is off

It means the 600/700 has legacy lights.

As I explained before 800 doesn't, it requires Dynamic Lights enabled to operate.

Regards,

Simbol

 

Just now, earthdog said:

Interesting! I fly exclusively 737-700 and i cant see them...strange. Can you share a photo when possible pls?

Thank you

Have you upgraded your models recently using the PMDG control panel?

S.

1 minute ago, simbol said:

Have you upgraded your models recently using the PMDG control panel?

S.

Yes i did. 2 days ago i run the operations center and had my products updated.

Just now, earthdog said:

Yes i did. 2 days ago i run the operations center and had my products updated.

Maybe they have now implemented only DL lights for the 737-600 / 700 so the situation is now the same for both models! an improvement! don't you love updates? 

Simbol

I am still on P3D 4.0 and have not yet updated my PMDG NGX.

I do not know why the 600/700 have both legacy lights (DL off) and DL (when switched on in the sim) as they refer back to the 800 base model.

5 minutes ago, simbol said:

Maybe they have now implemented only DL lights for the 737-600 / 700 so the situation is now the same for both models! an improvement! don't you love updates? 

Simbol

hehe indeed... So we are at the "rollback era".. Rolling back w10 KBxxxxx and PMDG micro updates... A true science just to get off reality for a couple of hours :)

P.S. i am on P3d v4.1 / Win10

Just now, earthdog said:

A true science just to get off reality for a couple of hours :)

LOL

Indeed, this is the solely reason I became a Fly sim developer 1 month ago, to help people towards this end as I am tired of the "hard science behind it"..

Simbol

Just now, simbol said:

LOL

Indeed, this is the solely reason I became a Fly sim developer 1 month ago, to help people towards this end as I am tired of the "hard science behind it"..

Simbol

Although there is some hard science behind that stuff :) Myself a developer but not in gaming (although i have written some utilities for FSX/FS2004)

24 minutes ago, Cargostorm said:

I am still on P3D 4.0 and have not yet updated my PMDG NGX.

I do not know why the 600/700 have both legacy lights (DL off) and DL (when switched on in the sim) as they refer back to the 800 base model.

I just tested this out for you folk.

NGX 600 series, downloaded 5 days ago form PMDG. Here are the dynamic lights in action. 82 FPS on the screenshot.

Dynamic lights off - frames possible 2-3 per second higher.

Dynamic lights off, "lights illuminate ground" setting on - NO illumination of the ground at all, just some light textures on the side of the plane. Completely black from the cockpit.

Conclusion: the current build of the NGX 600 series does not include legacy lighting that illuminates the ground. You can see lights when you look at the exterior model, and there is a texture change on the side of the aircraft - but they're not lights that do anything useful.

Conclusion2: Don't try to take off in the NGX from GA87 Sugar Creek Airpark when you have pax and fuel on board. It's just where I was in my Commanche when I was reading this thread, and thought I check the lights situation. Achieved positive rate, and almost cleared the trees... almost.

Thanks for testing. Could you also try the -700 model, just to make sure that there is no difference between the two models.

16 minutes ago, Cargostorm said:

Thanks for testing. Could you also try the -700 model, just to make sure that there is no difference between the two models.

Chris, I'll do it, but next time can you please ask when I'm at a bigger airport? I've already had one hull loss tonight, thanks to y'all. 

Here's the first visit by a 700-series NGX (in Southwest Classic colors) to 57NC Sossamon Field. Dynamic lights are on in the pic. WIth the lights off, she's exactly the same as the 600 described above ie. no illumination of the runway at all, but you can see 'lights' on the wings.

Now wish me luck for this takeoff...