Roger that!!

5 hours ago, brucets said:

I would have bought from Jetline, but a similar build would have been $4,200 or so.

 

I bet it's looking pretty good about now.    Jetline maybe a little more money, but they do good work. 

A real world stress test is P3Dv4 in a high load area where the frame rates get dragged down into the mid-20s for a while. 

blaustern

One option, Bruce, is to have the CPU removed and sent to Silicon Lottery or similar for delidding/binning.  I think SL charges about $50 to professionally delid the CPU and replace the TIM under the heat spreader with good liquid metal stuff.

Regards

 

blaustern - Hindsight is 20/20, but $4200 is insane. I'm just a casual simmer, or as some would say, a flying gamer! I never learned how to study in school and I'm not going to start now with the so called *study level* ac. I just want great graphics and realistic looking mesh, land class, autogen, AI and airports. Not a pilot now and never will be. I'm getting close to 80 and just want plug & play with realistic visuals. Am perfectly content with default FSX type ac, atc, navigation, etc. I fly in fair weather mostly and, although I have ASN I rarely use it. I use UT2, UTX, GEX, FSG and about 20 Fly Tampa, FSDT, Flight Beam airports. I fly the default jets with the great paints, the QW 757 (Lite), CS 727, 707, 737 -- all using default GPS Direct Nav. The point of all this is maybe I should have purchased a lesser system.

 

Bob - If I still lived in DEN I'd bring the box down to you, in COS, and pay you to fix it!!! I'm not about to take it apart and send the CPU out and re-install it. I take off the side covers to blow it out a couple times a year, but it always looks more complicated than a corn maze in there! Btw, I really enjoyed our short lived CO simmers meetings a few years ago.

Bruce   

I'm confused here?  You say you bought it late August?  That's about 7-8 weeks tops.  It has a warranty right?  I'm presuming you are in the USA, but we have a thing here in the UK called "The Sale Of Goods Act".  The machine they have supplied you with will not perform to it's specifications.  Surely you have similar?

Elton -

I live in Phoenix but I bought the PC in Denver on Aug 26th, while visiting. Got the PC back to PHX(900mi from DEN) and hooked up on Sep 15th. It took a full week to load FSX and get all the addons installed, mainly due to problems trying to re-register the addons with a new PC, a different address and a different e-mail -- than when everything was initially purchased. Absolute nightmare! The overheating and fan noise didn't manifest itself until I started flying FSX and playing with the settings. I first contacted Micro Center about the end of Sep. The *full return* policy is 15 days from purchase so I couldn't return it at that point. There is a one year limited warranty on parts, so if a part fails it will be replace at no charge except for labor. There were extended warranty options available for 2 and 3 years for about $200 and $300 but I did not purchase any. So the unit is currently under warranty until Aug 26, 2018. Nothing has failed yet -- so no replacement at this point.

Bruce

Not good, I wouldn't be settling for that though.  Intel advertise the chip as turbo to 4.5ghz.  The machine they have supplied you will not run at that.  It is faulty end of.  Get them to replace it or refund.

Pity they are so far away from you.  After spending that amount, I would have been at their premises inserting said machine into the assistant's orifice

Yeah and on top of all this I had to pay $228 to ship it to them --- and then got this response!!

Ouch

Got it back and tested all day yesterday with FSDT & Flightbeam airports. It was consistently in the mid 60's.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!As2fh2Zk--gphToK4IIpYwPO5h7z

Bruce

I would have thought that that is warm for running at stock with such a high end cooler.  My 6700k only gets to that at 4.6ghz with a cheap Antec Kuhler 620

2 hours ago, brucets said:

Got it back and tested all day yesterday with FSDT & Flightbeam airports. It was consistently in the mid 60's.

I wouldn't worry at all about that sort of temp when flying. 25-35 at idle and 60-70 whilst gaming isn't unusual for your CPU. People with exceptionally low temps usually use custom loop coolers and/or run their systems in lower ambient temperatures. Either that or they've just been lucky with their CPU - some processors just seem to run much cooler than others straight out of the box.

You don't mention the ambient temp but given the difficulties you've had getting a decent overclock, and the VID and temps your SS show, I'd suggest the CPU needs delidding.  Harder to troubleshoot heat issues with Intel's TIM'd CPU's without seeing what's going on under the heat spreader.

Good luck,

Greg

And that's with Turbo Boost shut off and only flying default, Capt Sim, QW757 ac. Not using ASN, PMDG or any other heavy stuff besides FSDT, UTX, GEX, UT2(45/30%), FSGenisis, etc

Greg, The ambient temp in this room is consistently 80f which I'm sure doesn't help. I am not overclocking and the speed step/turbo boost is even turned off. I just downloaded AI Suite 3 and that has my head spinning!

Bruce

On 10/16/2017 at 0:24 PM, Steve1969 said:

I have an adaptive Core Voltage setting with an offset of -0.085 and the OC Voltage of 1.134. You may need to tweak yours higher or even lower may be possible but it provides a baseline for you to work around. It took a while to find these settings - its a bit of trial and error.

In Digi+ VRM, I have a Standard Phase Conrol, with the rest at defaults.

Steve - This is how the CPU Voltage looks when starting AI S 3. I don't seeAdaptive, or offset or Digi+VRM, or Phase Control.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!As2fh2Zk--gphTyjiQHE0BeOqn9a

Bruce