March 29, 200620 yr I know this is a stupid a question, but on an airliner, if flying at night at what altitude do you turn off logo lights. Do they remain on the whole flight?ThanksAlexwww.fs2crew.comhttp://www.fs2crew.com/betateam.jpg
March 29, 200620 yr Commercial Member I'd say 10,000 feet...http://www.ldsflyingclub.com/siggies/ds.gif The SUPPORT FORUM for Level-D Simulations products: http://www.leveldsim.com/forums
March 29, 200620 yr some airlines keep them on all the time until they burn out so they dont have to worry about the cost of replacing them. others turn them off with the landing lights above 10,000. it all depends on company policy
March 29, 200620 yr Not a stupid question!How about the other lights. I've been told that the strobes should be off until ready for takeoff. Would be nice if someone with airline experience could lay out the whole lighning sheme (if that is an expression) :).Eagle
March 29, 200620 yr Commercial Member Alex,If you want to be consistent with the Airline SOPs modelled in FS2Crew 767, leave the Logo lights on anytime it's dark regardless of altitude.As mentioned by a previous poster though, other companies may have a different policy.Bryan B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
March 29, 200620 yr The way I've understood it:Nav lights - on during night, off during day since you can't really see them (at least not as well as in FS).Red beacon - on when about to move on the ground or start engines, off when on blocks and engines stopped.Strobes - on when entering runway, off when leaving runway. In smaller planes off in clouds so the reflections won't blind you.Taxi lights - on when taxiing at night. Off before turning to gate so you don't blind the ground crew.Landing lights - on when entering runway, off when above 10000 ft, on when below 10000 ft, off exiting runway.Logo lights - switched on on the ground during night so the guy in the tower can recognize your aircraft, in the air increases your visiblity in terminal areas.
March 29, 200620 yr Commercial Member Another variation on the landing lights: Turned on when cleared for takeoff and turned on again when cleared to land.Bryan B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
March 29, 200620 yr I would agree with what Jani says with the exception of the Nav lights. These should be on whenever the plane is powered (i.e. battery on and APU running / ground power connected / engines running, or whenever the engine is running for planes without an APU), irrespective of whether it's day or night. Matthew Spedding
March 29, 200620 yr In the real world we use logo lights obviously when we're on the ground in the dark but usually goes off passing 10000ft and when coming back down through 10000ft. As the FL100 checks are usually lights - (inboards on 737 and logo, also the seat belt sign goes off and check pressurising.Its primarily an advertising thing more than anything, I routinely see some airlines that forget to switch it on/off doesnt' really matter too much.Hope that helps.
March 29, 200620 yr Seem to remember years ago reading that AA never lights their logo - is that true?If so there's a lot of incorrect fs light maps out there :)regards,Markhttp://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpgXPHomeSP2/FS9.1/3.2HT/1024mb/X700pro256 Regards, Mark
March 29, 200620 yr Think maybe you mean the beacon lights. If the engines are running the beacon should be on as matter of warning. I dont recall having seen nav or beacon lights on when the plane was at the gate and only on APU. At least years ago when I worked ground crew for Delta they didnt do that.Eric AND
March 29, 200620 yr I think this needs a little correction:NAV lights: on as soon as the aircraft becomes powered (batt, APU) and/or moved.STROBES: I'm not sure here 'cause the older MD-80s switch them on automatically *after* the gears leave the runway (and you cannot activate them before manually).I'd generally say that since logo lights and thelikes are unimportant light sources, they're best switched on and off according if it makes sense to do so (ex.: logo lights in bright sunshine wouldn't be that great).Andreas Andreas, LOWW - Nihil sumus et fuimus mortales. Respice, lector: In nihil ab nihilo quam cito recidimus.
March 29, 200620 yr It is interesting to see the different opinions. Suppose we should consult the FAR's or what ever the avaiation regulation is for your country you are flying in. :DAircraft Lighting Operation Lights On: landing light on in flight; private pilot test says required within 10nm of airport
March 29, 200620 yr the one flying lesson I had the instructor turned on the strobes only shortly before entering the pattern for landing, then turned them off again once clear of the runway.Had the light been less before takeoff maybe he'd have used them at that time as well, can't tell.
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