AirCanada235

Virtual Reality in P3D with PMDG Machines

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Gentlemen,

I am wondering if those of you out there in the know have any experience with VR setups in P3Dv4 - specifically with PMDG built machines.  Was looking at the FlyInside software coupled with an Occulas Rift but wanted to hear some first hand accounts of how things look and feel and just generally operate as a whole.

Thanks in advance and happy holidays.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, AirCanada235 said:

I am wondering if those of you out there in the know have any experience with VR setups in P3Dv4 - specifically with PMDG built machines.  Was looking at the FlyInside software coupled with an Occulas Rift but wanted to hear some first hand accounts of how things look and feel and just generally operate as a whole.

I think Jason and Vin both like it (Jason recently got his). I'm entertained by it. FlyInside is great for FSX and P3D-non-native, but v4.1 has it built in, so I just use P3Dv4.1's native function when I do use it. I don't use it that often, though. I'll have to do some more tweaking to get it to perform slightly better.

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Just now, AirCanada235 said:

@scandinavian13 Do you think it is is  worthwhile investment or more of a gimmick?

I like it, but I use it more for Project Cars and Elite Dangerous (here and there), than I do in the sim. It might just be how I've set it up, but the text can be pretty blurry at times. It's definitely pretty cool, though.

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I for one love VR flying when you don't have to fiddle with buttons, read gauges, tweak things, etc (which you have to do A LOT of in a commercial liner such as the PMDG birds).  I'll hop in the F-22 with VR all day and play around, cuz I don't have to mess with the VC at all.  This is where VR really shines.  I definitely recommend it, just don't think it suits instrument flying very well

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2 minutes ago, blaird22 said:

I'll hop in the F-22 with VR all day and play around, cuz I don't have to mess with the VC at all.  This is where VR really shines.

Yes! Agreed!

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P3D 4.1 native VR allows you to hop in and out of VR whenever you want, so you can do all the flight planning on 2D mode. That is what I do and I would never go back to using just the monitor!

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Flying the PMDG airplanes in VR is absolutely awesome! I highly recommend it. The best performance, frame rate wise, is the 737, followed by the 777. The 747 appears to be the most demanding in PC performance, but it is my favorite, and I fly it often. Ever since I got the Oculus, I’ve never gone back to the Track IR! It is absolutely amazing! 

Ray

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10 minutes ago, Bones309th said:

Flying the PMDG airplanes in VR is absolutely awesome! I highly recommend it. The best performance, frame rate wise, is the 737, followed by the 777. The 747 appears to be the most demanding in PC performance, but it is my favorite, and I fly it often. Ever since I got the Oculus, I’ve never gone back to the Track IR! It is absolutely amazing! 

Ray

Excellent thank you all very much and thanks Bones.  Looks like you and I also play with this hobby in the real world.  What do you operate?

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3 minutes ago, AirCanada235 said:

Excellent thank you all very much and thanks Bones.  Looks like you and I also play with this hobby in the real world.  What do you operate?

The A320 man! I still have that childhood curiosity of how other airplanes fly! You?

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777.  Truth be told - I always wanted to fly a "bus".  I always used to marvel at the level of automation and decrease in workload that airbus built in to the airplane.  The protection systems are amazing and still to this day amaze me.  That said, best airplane I have ever flown - hands down would be the MD-80.  That is a pilots airplane.

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4 hours ago, AirCanada235 said:

777.  Truth be told - I always wanted to fly a "bus".  I always used to marvel at the level of automation and decrease in workload that airbus built in to the airplane.  The protection systems are amazing and still to this day amaze me.  That said, best airplane I have ever flown - hands down would be the MD-80.  That is a pilots airplane.

777?! Wow man, you’re flying with the big boys! 😆 That’s awesome Dave! I love a Boeing man. I flew the 727 freighter on all three seats, and that was my old time favorarte! It was fast and if you can see the airport, you can land on it! I’m hoping JetBlue gets a wide body some day.  I’d like a chance to fly one before I retire. The Airbus is the easiest airplane I’ve ever flown. Can make you a very lazy pilot! 😆 

Yeah man, get that Oculus setup. I love that thing! The resolution could be better, but man, the level of immersion is unbelievable! I fly DCS World as well, and that in VR is an amazing experience! So far the best performers in VR is DCS World and Aerofly FS2. Don’t get me wrong, P3D V4 is awesome in itself, but as far as the lighting,  and the smooth frame rates, I think those two are the best. Also, Navigraph is a must if you’re going to fly P3D V4 with FlyInside. You can import that window and is like having your own EFB in the airplane. Is awesome! I know I’m an aviation geek! 😂 

Ray

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I am running P3D with an HTC Vive and the experience is very immersive.  PMDG aircraft plus high quality addon scenery requires a lot of CPU and GPU horsepower.  I am able to get good results in the P3D native VR on my system (i7-7700 CPU, GTX 1080).  I tried Flyinside as well, but found that it didn't help performance and caused blurry textures.  Other people have found Flyinside to help performance, so give the demo a try.

 

Bill Rowe

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Thinking about taking the plunge, is the Rift the way to go? I know 8K VR headsets are on the way soon, but Xmas is around the corner and this would be neat to have under the tree. 

What gear is best?

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It seems that the Rift does offer a slightly better experience from what I`ve heard, but its nothing major. They are pretty similar.

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3 hours ago, Angelo Cosma said:

Thinking about taking the plunge, is the Rift the way to go? I know 8K VR headsets are on the way soon, but Xmas is around the corner and this would be neat to have under the tree. 

What gear is best?

Angelo, I have the Riff. Don’t know any others. Perhaps someone in the forum has compared the two and can give you better info. Native VR for me in P3D V4 was not good at all! I was getting lots of video stutters and the frame rates sucked! 

Ray

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13 hours ago, Bones309th said:

Angelo, I have the Riff. Don’t know any others. Perhaps someone in the forum has compared the two and can give you better info. Native VR for me in P3D V4 was not good at all! I was getting lots of video stutters and the frame rates sucked! 

Ray

What is your rig configuration?

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i have an occulus rift with a high end pc , i use my vr for taxing, take off and landing, sometimes it s really hard for my eyes, but in an pmdg cockpit it s just amazing

p3dv4.1 un vr native mode

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18 hours ago, tgcbraun said:

What is your rig configuration?

I have an i7 7700K with an Nvidia 1080, and 32 Gigs of RAM. 

Ray

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2 hours ago, Bones309th said:

I have an i7 7700K with an Nvidia 1080, and 32 Gigs of RAM. 

Ray

Well, I have a similar config and everything is usually pretty smooth and its hard to find a sim loaded with more add-ons than mine. I do get some hiccups eventuality (Especially with the FSLABS), but the general experience is very good.

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10 hours ago, tgcbraun said:

Well, I have a similar config and everything is usually pretty smooth and its hard to find a sim loaded with more add-ons than mine. I do get some hiccups eventuality (Especially with the FSLABS), but the general experience is very good.

Are you running P3D V4 with Flyinside or native? What are your frame rates like with the PMDG 74? I also get flashes every now and then. Are you getting those?

Ray

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I am running exclusively on native VR. I don`t measure frames, but outside of VR i have locked the frames to 30 and they usually stay there, unless I am using the FSLABS A320. On VR, the experience is generally very smooth, again, with the exception being the A320 on big cities or with lots of clouds around. The PMDGs work flawlessly for me.

Try locking your frames on 30. For me it helped a lot with the stutters.

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On 12/6/2017 at 11:44 AM, scandinavian13 said:

Yes! Agreed!

You're more in tune with this than I probably am. Wasn't there a hardware device in the works where a user would wear a glove and in turn they would see a virtual hand in their sim? This way they could wear a VR headset and use virtual hands to control the aircraft. I think this was a year or more back I saw something like this being demoed online.

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