PMDG Share Cockpit Add-on  

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  1. 1. Would you buy an Add-on that enables share cockpit capabilities for the PMDG airplanes?

    • Yes
      110
    • No
      44
  2. 2. If your answer is affirmative, what would you like me to develop first?

    • AI Traffic Reborn Runway Control
      26
    • PMDG 737 NGX Share Cockpit
      101
    • N/A
      27


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Hello everyone,

Although I am currently busy developing my next paywareI am studying what other projects I can develop for the community in the future, after a couple of days of research I feel confident that I can develop an add-on that can implement share cockpit capabilities for the PMDG, initially I would start with the 737NGX.

But before I adding this to my project queue I would like to know how viable commercially speaking the project would be, in other words I would like to know how many users would be interested on purchasing such add-on that would enable these capabilities.

Please feel free to vote in order to let know if you are interested.

Best Regards,
Simbol

 

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Yes! Must-buy for me, shared cockpit for the 737NGX would be the most amazing experience I could imagine. Please do it! :)

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2 hours ago, captain420 said:

This is awesome, but I rather have 777 and 747 instead. :)

He has to start somewhere. Why not with the plane that is flown more often. 

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6 minutes ago, Keven Menard said:

I bet you PMDG will come with a solution for this down the road...

Unless that's part of there mysterious announcement I figured PMDG would have released shared cockpit by now if they were interested in it. 

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1 minute ago, Wise87 said:

Unless that's part of there mysterious announcement I figured PMDG would have released shared cockpit by now if they were interested in it. 

It's not because something isn't done right now that it hasn't been in the works for a long time. I remember them mentioning it somewhere during an event or in an official announcement.

I don't have more info than anybody but if I had ressources to put in a project, I wouldn't be that one.

Albeit, I might be wrong

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19 minutes ago, Keven Menard said:

It's not because something isn't done right now that it hasn't been in the works for a long time. I remember them mentioning it somewhere during an event or in an official announcement.

I don't have more info than anybody but if I had ressources to put in a project, I wouldn't be that one.

Albeit, I might be wrong

Hi Keven,

Nice to meet you, thanks for your input I would not start the project unless I am certain that it is possible and of course viable.

Best Regards,
Simbol

 

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PMDG has waived back and forth on implementing Shared Cockpit since before the NGX was released (forum search will show this).  The last word from PMDG on the subject is from Ryan, who makes it clear they were no longer interested in this feature.  That said, the landscape is always changing, so who knows that they might be planning for the future.

 

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@DaveCT2003 thanks for that contribution, have they mentioned any reasons?

@simbol great to meet you too! Shared cockpit is a very large beast and the last thing I’d like to see is someone wasting resources on it unless it’s really worth it!

If PMDG have abandoned the plans then it’s a great idea and it should definitely get done!

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If I may add:

From experience, smaller projects should be made first to finance the development of larger projects. I see Runway Control as a smaller project that should be done first.

On my end, releasing ChasePlane slowed every other project down and I’m only now starting to work on Immersion packs again...

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Hi @Keven Menard,

Absolutely, that is why I am releasing AI Lights Reborn Professional edition first.

Regards,
Simbol

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18 minutes ago, Keven Menard said:

@DaveCT2003 thanks for that contribution, have they mentioned any reasons?

@simbol great to meet you too! Shared cockpit is a very large beast and the last thing I’d like to see is someone wasting resources on it unless it’s really worth it!

If PMDG have abandoned the plans then it’s a great idea and it should definitely get done!

Quite honestly, it is far less complex that most developers think.  Yes, Ryan cited the complexity and having to deal with sockets as reasons they selected not to pursue Shared Cockpit, both of which are simply untrue.  It's neither all that complex, nor does one have to deal with sockets (tunneling).

 

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49 minutes ago, DaveCT2003 said:

Quite honestly, it is far less complex that most developers think. 

I think the complexity does not come from the connection between peers but from the synchronization of everything across multiple platforms. (Again, might be wrong)

I don’t believe this was a very complex project for a company as large as PMDG.

If they decided not to do it, I believe it’s because they have something else in the pipeline that would be an even bigger breakthrough...

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1 hour ago, Keven Menard said:

I think the complexity does not come from the connection between peers but from the synchronization of everything across multiple platforms. (Again, might be wrong)

I don’t believe this was a very complex project for a company as large as PMDG.

If they decided not to do it, I believe it’s because they have something else in the pipeline that would be an even bigger breakthrough...

Keven,

You recognize my username my friend?

 

 

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To the op...what does your gut say first on what you want to do.

Lets say you are gonna develop both (I am sure you will) but for conversation sake - Which project are you going to have fun developing first and seeing in action?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Skywolf said:

To the op...what does your gut say first on what you want to do.

Lets say you are gonna develop both (I am sure you will) but for conversation sake - Which project are you going to have fun developing first and seeing in action?

 

 

For me it doesn't matter both are great ideas, and I will have fun developing both.

I will wait to see the results of the poll after a couple of months to decide which one to develop first, but you are right I will do both that is for sure, however if my first release goes well I might expand operations and develop both at the same time by hiring an extra set of hands.

Best Regards,

Simbol 

 

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I will be fascinated to learn about more about my PMDG 737 addon with someone experienced in Shared Cockpit (I need to get my money's worth of this addon...and I still have pmdg 777 left to learn).  There is so much to learn about this bird and I just do not understand as I am not a real pilot (just a simmer lol)....Using shared cockpit in VR would be epic (yes, I know you won't see the other person, but I will get to see buttons move, knobs turn, and audio on what is exactly going on).

 

Then again what is AI Traffic Reborn? your site mentions it but is very secretive about it.

 

Looking forward on seeing both the projects and wish you full success in it.  It will be exciting for sure!!!!

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26 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

Then again what is AI Traffic Reborn? your site mentions it but is very secretive about it.

Don't we all love secrets?

It is about AI traffic flow, I don't want to reveal much about it until the release date is set and the beta version is on the hands of @DaveCT2003 and his team.

There is a reason for keeping it like this, first I don't like making promises I cannot accomplish and second I don't want people spreading speculations that could create wrong expectations, as obviously this would create a bad image for the product before is even out for beta testing, if you read different FS forums often you know this happened already to many developers.

So you will need to wait like everyone else :).

Regards 

Simbol 

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On 12/19/2017 at 1:00 AM, simbol said:

Although I am currently busy developing my next paywareI am studying what other projects I can develop for the community in the future, after a couple of days of research I feel confident that I can develop an add-on that can implement share cockpit capabilities for the PMDG, initially I would start with the 737NGX.

Just so you don't go down a road thats already been gone down.  Desk Pilot already offers shared cockpit.  But if you could offer a better product then by all means I'd probably invest in it.

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Lack of shared cockpit is why none of the PMDG aircraft get any air time in my sim. I'm much happier taking the excellent Majestic Q400 instead that offers shared cockpit as well as a host of other features while delivering incredible performance. 

I will, however, give PMDG planes another chance if you manage to build a robust shared cockpit add-on for it. 

I find it bizarre that developers who have made a name by delivering top notch system fidelity on their aircraft still don't consider shared cockpit an essential feature. Totally breaks the immersion if you ask me.

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The problem with DeskPilot is the lack of FMC sync. So both pilots have to do exactly the same inputs to keep their state synced. 

If you could create a way to make the 737 work like the Q400 (from a shared cockpit perspective) it would be absolutely awesome.

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On 1/10/2018 at 3:48 AM, Bloody said:

The problem with DeskPilot is the lack of FMC sync. So both pilots have to do exactly the same inputs to keep their state synced. 

If you could create a way to make the 737 work like the Q400 (from a shared cockpit perspective) it would be absolutely awesome.

The paid variant allows the CDU keypress sync. I haven't gotten to play with it but it should everything should be shared now.  There are other severe deficiencies that I find with the product.  Not the least of which is active support.  The forum is all but abandoned the Facebook page is so so.  They say they are testing stuff and then never report any findings.

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