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Realair Duke v2 Piston in P3D v4

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Hi fellas,

Have any of you been able to install the Realair Duke v2, the original one with piston engines, into Prepar3D v4? I used all the info I could find in the thread about installing the Turbine Duke in the sim. With this info I was able to install my Lancair Legacy into the sim succesfully. So I also installed the piston Duke in a Prepar3D Addons folder in My Documents and I added the appropriate info to the addon.cfg file and the add-on.xml. I replaced the original soundgauge with the 64-bit file. The aircraft appears in the sim, however, unlike with the Legacy, I cannot get my Duke gear and flap sound active. Any ideas what I'm missing?

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16 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

Hi fellas,

Have any of you been able to install the Realair Duke v2, the original one with piston engines, into Prepar3D v4? I used all the info I could find in the thread about installing the Turbine Duke in the sim. With this info I was able to install my Lancair Legacy into the sim succesfully. So I also installed the piston Duke in a Prepar3D Addons folder in My Documents and I added the appropriate info to the addon.cfg file and the add-on.xml. I replaced the original soundgauge with the 64-bit file. The aircraft appears in the sim, however, unlike with the Legacy, I cannot get my Duke gear and flap sound active. Any ideas what I'm missing?

Bert

Try adding the 64 bit sound gauge to the P3DV4 gauges folder re-named to RASDuke_Sound. it worked for me.

Greg 

 

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You cannot use the addon.xml method with the piston Duke v2.  Just install it directly into the P3D folder and change the sound gauge.  When installed outside of P3D RealAir can't find the sounds even if you have the right replacement.

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Thanks for the replies; installing directly into Prepar3D did the trick.

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Excuse me please, I had the Piston Duke v2 installed in P3D3.x and now it's in 4.1 with add-on.xml.

I have Legacy and the Turbo in same folder with the Piston. If you're familiar with the xml thing, you will see how I have it;

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<SimBase.Document Type="AddOnXml" version="4,0" id="add-on">
    <AddOn.Name>Duke B60 V2 P3D3</AddOn.Name>
    <AddOn.Description>Aircraft RealAir</AddOn.Description>
    <AddOn.Component>
        <Category>Effects</Category>
        <Path>E:\RealAir\dukeb60v2\Effects</Path>
    </AddOn.Component>
    <AddOn.Component>
        <Category>SimObjects</Category>
        <Path>E:\RealAir\dukeb60v2\SimObjects\Airplanes</Path>
    </AddOn.Component>
</SimBase.Document> 

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<SimBase.Document Type="AddOnXml" version="4,0" id="add-on">
    <AddOn.Name>Duke B60 V2 P3D3</AddOn.Name>
    <AddOn.Description>Aircraft RealAir</AddOn.Description>
    <AddOn.Component>
        <Category>Effects</Category>
        <Path>E:\RealAir\dukeb60v2\Effects</Path>
    </AddOn.Component>
    <AddOn.Component>
        <Category>SimObjects</Category>
        <Path>E:\RealAir\dukeb60v2\SimObjects\Airplanes</Path>
    </AddOn.Component>
</SimBase.Document>

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<SimBase.Document Type="AddOnXml" version="4,0" id="add-on">
    <AddOn.Name>Legacy V2 P3D3</AddOn.Name>
    <AddOn.Description>Aircraft RealAir</AddOn.Description>
    <AddOn.Component>
        <Category>Effects</Category>
        <Path>E:\RealAir\Legacy V2 P3D3\Effects</Path>
    </AddOn.Component>
    <AddOn.Component>
        <Category>SimObjects</Category>
        <Path>E:\RealAir\Legacy V2 P3D3\SimObjects\Airplanes</Path>
    </AddOn.Component>
</SimBase.Document> 

 

Of course I still had P3Dv3 installed when I went to v4. So required folders and info was copy and paste job

 

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2 hours ago, Anxu00 said:

You cannot use the addon.xml method with the piston Duke v2.  Just install it directly into the P3D folder and change the sound gauge.  When installed outside of P3D RealAir can't find the sounds even if you have the right replacement.

It may be more work than most users are inclined to put into it, but you can edit the configuration file for the sound gauge to use explicit paths for the sounds, something like:

Sound00=c:\p3d_aircraft\RealAir_Duke\panel\sound\KEYPRESS_ANNUN.wav, -200

You can do the same thing with the panel.cfg entry for the gauge:

gauge21=RealAir_Sound_x64!Sound, 1,1,2,2, c:\p3d_aircraft\RealAir_Duke\panel\Sound\RASDukeTv2_Sound.ini

The reason outfits like RealAir don't do that is that they can't know where your FS installation will be.  You of course do know that, so, if you wish, you can make the edits to the configuration files to include the specific path references.

The examples above are just that, examples.  You will of course need to modify them to reflect the paths where the files are actually found on your computer.

 

Doug

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dondy said:

Is this also working with the P3D V3 installer or only with the FSX one?

Turbine Duke has a P3D version, but there is no P3D version for the piston Duke B60. 

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Sorry Mike! Need to read the titles more carefully :blink:

After some more research I just found out that there is now a P3D V4.1 installer from RealAir for the Turbine Duke :gaul:

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If you place a dummy rxpgns.dll file in your gauges folder you can also configure the panel with Reality XP. I tried this so I could swap the units with RXP v2 ones. Unfortunately that swap is not flawless. Has anyone been able to succesfully do this?

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On 06/01/2018 at 4:22 PM, Mikelab6 said:

Hi,

 

Follow this procedure...

Mike

I followed this procedure and it worked great. Glad to finally have the RealAir PIston Duke in P3Dv4, as I prefer it to the Turbine. Thanks of posting the link.

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That's for the Turbine Duke.  We're speaking of the piston Duke - which was never officially updated for P3D.  

Anyway I tried installing the dawson 64 bit sound gauge and mine is not working.  I put it in the main P3D v4 gauges folder and it is renamed exactly like the old file.  Any ideas?

Edited by ryanbatcund

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5 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

I put it in the main P3D v4 gauges folder and it is renamed exactly like the old file.  Any ideas?

Did you try dropping Doug's 64bit dll into the Panel folder?

Greg

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10 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

That's for the Turbine Duke.  We're speaking of the piston Duke - which was never officially updated for P3D.  

Anyway I tried installing the dawson 64 bit sound gauge and mine is not working.  I put it in the main P3D v4 gauges folder and it is renamed exactly like the old file.  Any ideas?

I ran into the same problem with the CLS DC-10 HD.  The Turbine Duke method doesn't work for me on that aircraft.

I installed the 64-bit sound gauge, edited the ini files with explicit paths to the .wav files, etc. etc. -- and no go.

My latest theory is that the xml gauges on some aircraft need to be modified also.  Does the piston Duke have xml gauges?   With the DC-10, I have been playing around with the xml gauges, and managed to modify the simplest of them (SEAT BELT gauge - on or off) and have successfully gotten it to activate its click sound.  However,  in doing so I somehow broke the animation part of the gauge....still working on that....

Maybe you're seeing a similar thing with the piston Duke?

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1 hour ago, Mace said:

I ran into the same problem with the CLS DC-10 HD.  The Turbine Duke method doesn't work for me on that aircraft.

I installed the 64-bit sound gauge, edited the ini files with explicit paths to the .wav files, etc. etc. -- and no go.

My latest theory is that the xml gauges on some aircraft need to be modified also.  Does the piston Duke have xml gauges?   With the DC-10, I have been playing around with the xml gauges, and managed to modify the simplest of them (SEAT BELT gauge - on or off) and have successfully gotten it to activate its click sound.  However,  in doing so I somehow broke the animation part of the gauge....still working on that....

Maybe you're seeing a similar thing with the piston Duke?

The CLS products use an older version of the sound gauge, with a different interface.  You'll be in pretty tough trying to update them to work with the 64 bit sound gauge.

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On 3/14/2018 at 4:41 PM, lownslo said:

Did you try dropping Doug's 64bit dll into the Panel folder?

Greg

Yes I've tried dropping it the root P3D gauges folder and the piston Duke's Panel folder.

You guys are using the name  RASDuke_Sound.gau right?  

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Ryan

Try RASDuke_sound in your gauges folder not RASDuke_Sound.gau. This what worked for me. I do not understand why but dropping the .gau made it work.

Greg

 

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Ryan,

Could you post the panel.cfg entry for the gauge?

Also, let me know where the folder of sounds for the panel is (probably within the panel folder.)

 

Doug

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On 3/17/2018 at 6:22 AM, gregmorin said:

Ryan

Try RASDuke_sound in your gauges folder not RASDuke_Sound.gau. This what worked for me. I do not understand why but dropping the .gau made it work.

Greg

 

I'm guessing you have file extensions hidden?  I renamed it to just that and it didn't work (of course since there was no file name).  But I then renamed to RASDuke_Sound.dll and the dll was the key!

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I  have this in the panel.cfg file:

gauge21=RASDuke_Sound64!Sound, 1,1,2,2,./SimObjects/Airplanes/RealAir Duke B60 V2/Panel/Sound/RASDuke_Sound.ini

and  RASDuke_Sound64.dll  in the Gauges folder

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40 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

I'm guessing you have file extensions hidden?  I renamed it to just that and it didn't work (of course since there was no file name).  But I then renamed to RASDuke_Sound.dll and the dll was the key!

Glad you got it working Ryan!

Greg

 

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7 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

I  have this in the panel.cfg file:

gauge21=RASDuke_Sound64!Sound, 1,1,2,2,./SimObjects/Airplanes/RealAir Duke B60 V2/Panel/Sound/RASDuke_Sound.ini

and  RASDuke_Sound64.dll  in the Gauges folder

Yes, because the entry in panel.cfg is explicit, you can put the gauge in the main gauges folder.

If your panel.cfg looks like this:

gauge21=RASDuke_Sound64!Sound, 1,1,2,2,Sound/RASDuke_Sound.ini

then the gauge must go in the panel folder.

Also, when searching for gauges, P3D looks in the gauges folder first and then in the aircraft's panel folder.  This behaviour is the opposite of that of FSX.  This can be problematic with gauges using a config file.

Doug

 

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I just renamed Doug's dll to RASDuke_Sound.gau and placed it in the main gauges folder, overwriting the original one. That worked for me; all the cockpit sounds are there. Strange that didn't work for Ryan.

Edited by Rimshot

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