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In NI try these settings to see if it helps.

Antialiasing section.

change Ant setting to 8xSQ

Chsnge Ant Transparency SuperSampling to 2x sparse Grid super sampling.

Texture Filtering Section

change A Filtering mode to user-defined/ off

change A filtering setting to 16x

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Regarding AA :

Only SGSS is working in P3D

Use the same value for SGSS as AA in P3D.

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1 hour ago, GSalden said:

Regarding AA :

Only SGSS is working in P3D

Use the same value for SGSS as AA in P3D.

Would that be regardless of whether the P3D setting is xMSAA or x SSAA? Or does this apply only if xSSAA is being used in P3D?

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Both can used.


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3 hours ago, GSalden said:

Regarding AA :

Only SGSS is working in P3D

Use the same value for SGSS as AA in P3D.

 

1 hour ago, GSalden said:

Both can used.

 

Trying to follow you on this, so, for example, if I am currently using 4xSSAA in P3D, what would you propose as the SGSS setting in NI?

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57 minutes ago, orbmis said:

 

 

Trying to follow you on this, so, for example, if I am currently using 4xSSAA in P3D, what would you propose as the SGSS setting in NI?

mike

Depending on your video card 4xMSAA & 4SGSS will look amazing, but your frames will drop when flying in heavy cloud cover. I'm going to assume that with a good video card you should be ok. You can always go with 2x, but it doesn't look as good on my system.

What you don't want to do is use 4sSSAA then add 4 SGSS, because I'll bet me years of experience that the performance will suffer dramatically and you will get stutters. GUARANTEED!


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17 minutes ago, GSalden said:

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Gerard, so I understand the recommendation is to set both fields in P3D & NV? Others say there is no need to tweak NV since P3D v4.

I am totally confused with this.... 😳


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4 minutes ago, DJJose said:

Depending on your video card 4xMSAA & 4SGSS will look amazing, but your frames will drop when flying in heavy cloud cover. I'm going to assume that with a good video card you should be ok. You can always go with 2x, but it doesn't look as good on my system.

What you don't want to do is use 4sSSAA then add 4 SGSS, because I'll bet me years of experience that the performance will suffer dramatically and you will get stutters. GUARANTEED!

So, from a performance/visuals perspective, which do you think would be the better option....4xSSAA alone in P3D,, or 4xMSAA in P3D with 4SGSS in NI? 

Good discussion going here!!

 

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Inspector works, only if you enhance the ap & use SGSS. As Gerard stated match the MSAA setting.

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1 minute ago, orbmis said:

So, from a performance/visuals perspective, which do you think would be the better option....4xSSAA alone in P3D,, or 4xMSAA in P3D with 4SGSS in NI? 

Good discussion going here!!

 

4xMSAA in P3D with 4SGSS will give you the best visuals and best performance. You can check higher settings if your system can handle it. But, because P3D is still primarily CPU dependent, I doubt that higher will give you acceptable performance. My P3D v4 fps are locked at 30.


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1 minute ago, DJJose said:

Inspector works, only if you enhance the ap & use SGSS. As Gerard stated match the MSAA setting.

Thanks and if I set application controlled/off am I expected to get worse performance if setting the AA only via P3D?


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Just now, DJJose said:

4xMSAA in P3D with 4SGSS will give you the best visuals and best performance. You can check higher settings if your system can handle it. But, because P3D is still primarily CPU dependent, I doubt that higher will give you acceptable performance. My P3D v4 fps are locked at 30.

1 thing I do find is that setting the FPS locked to 30.5 via NV works best for me. If this is done via P3D I get the stutters.


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1 minute ago, Shomron said:

1 thing I do find is that setting the FPS locked to 30.5 via NV works best for me. If this is done via P3D I get the stutters.

Try to create a flight plan in P3D v4 and tell me what happens. When I set fps outside the sim, for some reason I have issues with the flight planner.

Also do you have HT enabled?

I feel that is better to set a locked fps in the sim, then add FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.12  tweak. Performance is good without blurries.


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6 minutes ago, Shomron said:

Thanks and if I set application controlled/off am I expected to get worse performance if setting the AA only via P3D?

I don't understand the question.

You don't need Inspector to get AA working in P#D v4. However, if you want better performance with better visuals you can use Inspector. It gives you more options and allows you to get rid of those shimmering objects without using SSAA in P3D.


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