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I am ordering components for a new i8700 based PD3 computer. In the past I have always gone with the Pro version of Windows, although I can not for the life of me remember why. So, my question is do I need to order the Pro version or will the Home version work for a PD3 build? I do, on occasion, fly online. However, other than a Home network, I will not be doing anything else with it, other than flight simulation.

 

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John - You are absolutely fine with the Home version.  I always buy the Pro version, and don't have a technical reason why.  I guess it boosts my self-esteem since it makes me feel like a pro.  : )  All kidding aside, though, the Home version is fine.  The Lockheed recommended system requirements just says Windows 10 x64 and doesn't specify Home or Pro.

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11 hours ago, dmiannay said:

John - You are absolutely fine with the Home version.  I always buy the Pro version, and don't have a technical reason why.  I guess it boosts my self-esteem since it makes me feel like a pro.  : )  All kidding aside, though, the Home version is fine.  The Lockheed recommended system requirements just says Windows 10 x64 and doesn't specify Home or Pro.

Thanks Doug,

I noticed in your setup that you are using the ASUS Maximus X Hero MB. How do you like it. That is the board I have decided to purchase.


John
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AMD Ryzen 7 7800 X3D@ 5.1 GHz, 32 GB DDR5 RAM - 3 M2 Drives. 1 TB Boot, 2 TB Sim drive, 2 TB Add-on Drive, 6TB Backup data hard drive
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21 minutes ago, jmig said:

I noticed in your setup that you are using the ASUS Maximus X Hero MB. How do you like it. That is the board I have decided to purchase.

John - I went with ASUS for my first PC build many years ago and have been very pleased with their products... they've served me very well.  The Maximus X Hero continues that trend.  Very detailed overclocking features and support for the 4000Hz RAM I'm using.  I'm also a big fan of the pre-mounted I/O shield... installation is much easier, and it looks far more professional.  There are definitely equivalent MBs from other top-line companies, but ASUS fits the bill for me.  I think you'll be very happy with the Hero.



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One thing the Pro version does that the Home version does not is allow you to disable automatic Windows updates (via the registry).  If I had it to do over again, I'd probably go with the Pro version for that feature alone.  Disabling auto-updating is an ongoing gun battle in the Home version.  There have been several bad forced updates that broke P3D and required a lot of work to go back and fix.

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Yep, M$ forcing updates is a major error on their part with their "two steps forward, one step back" way of life.

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The pro version has higher security and connectivity capabilities of the type that are of more interest to business. There are ways to turn off updates in the home version, some more effective than others. 


Bob

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25 minutes ago, bobbyjack said:

The pro version has higher security and connectivity capabilities of the type that are of more interest to business. There are ways to turn off updates in the home version, some more effective than others. 

The only means I have been able to find that consistently block automatic updates in the Home version are external to Windows, not "in" Windows, per se...OO Software's OOShutup utility, for example.

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System1 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS @ 6.0GHz, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU, 1.2Gbps internet
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

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I am currently running the Pro version. It only allows you to delay for 30 days. So far, knock on wood, MS Windows hasn't FUBARed my PD3 setup. I can delay the updates by pulling the Internet cable out of the computer.

Thank you to everyone who commented on my question. I appreciate your views.


John
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WU can be disables in Services. There seems to be some disagreement on how long it is before it turns itself back on. As an experiment, I've turned off WU and set it for ten days. 


Bob

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22 hours ago, bobbyjack said:

WU can be disables in Services.

Disabling the service will certainly stop the updates but it's potentially a very bad idea. This also disables all of the security and critical updates which potentially keep your system safe when you go online. It's easy to set Windows Update to ONLY download security and critical updates and ignore all of the rest (including driver updates). Last year's WannaCry ransomware attack should have taught everyone who goes online how risky it can be not to keep your OS updated.


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Turning of OS updates is possible BUT as Microsoft stated at the start of windows 10, windows 10 will be supported for life no more new windows OS but in order to get updates for life your OS you must keep windows up to date, or after given time not stated your OS will be dropped from life support, you will still get security updates but may miss out on patches for future third party software that may address issues.

So the choice is your windows 10 or move to another OS.

PS if you think Microsoft is intrusive I hope you have deleted FB , Google software , and thrown your apple devises in the bin , and stay away from APPs on your phone and PC. 

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On 18/04/2018 at 9:46 AM, vortex681 said:

Disabling the service will certainly stop the updates but it's potentially a very bad idea. This also disables all of the security and critical updates which potentially keep your system safe when you go online. It's easy to set Windows Update to ONLY download security and critical updates and ignore all of the rest (including driver updates). Last year's WannaCry ransomware attack should have taught everyone who goes online how risky it can be not to keep your OS updated.

Oh, I'm not in favor of turning off updates. I only mentioned it because there were rumblings that they couldn't be turned off in Home.


Bob

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