June 14, 20187 yr Since Aerosoft just has announced that their new BUS was tested in W10 environment and no support is planned for W7, I'd like to upgrade OS, but to keep my existing P3Dv4.1 installation at the same time. A few questions I have before I proceed. 1. I have stable W7-PRO installation on a custom-build PC. If I buy W10 Pro from MS website, may I install W10 over existing W7 installation OR should I wipe W7 out first and then start installing W10 from the scratch (and obviously P3D as well). 2. Should I update MB, sound and video drivers myself OR W10 will automatically do all the updates for me? 3. Is there any FAQ that helps to improve W10/P3D peaceful coexistence as I have read a bunch of negative reports regarding P3D performance within W10 environment. Thank you Dmitriy 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
June 14, 20187 yr Just install the addon on your current Win7 install and be done with it. Your life could be made miserable over the next few months by going cold turkey to Win10. But if you insist ....if it were me: I'd by another HDD and install Win10 on that with a new copy of P3d and slowly migrate over to Win10 Edited June 14, 20187 yr by FunknNasty ROG Maximus X Apex Z370 -- 8086 @ 5.3 / NB 5.0 -- GSkill @ 4133 c17-17-32~Cr1 1.42v -- EVGA 1080Ti 6393 -- ROG PG279Q 1440P 150hz -- Corsair H100i V2 --Samsung EVO 850(s) -- Windows7 Pro 64 --Corsair 750X Ken C
June 14, 20187 yr Hi, I personally made the transition from W7 to W10 in January 2018 and I am very happy. W10 rocks and I made it look like W7 using some customization tools from StarDock. I made a new fresh install and reinstalled all my programs afterwards (Finally it is not so difficult, just to make this carefully and provided you have all your software install files with keys ready to be installed). Doing that, I installed a NVME SSD for the system and it was very simple with W10. So, I suggest making a fresh install instead of an update. You will have all things properly installed with no problems and all programs will also be in a very good state. And if you are not sure, you can make a backup of your existing W7 system (using free Macrium Reflect backup software for instance) Regarding drivers, W10 installation normally makes all things automatically, but if you want the latest drivers, you can make updates after that (specially the display driver) About performance, I did not see any difference with w7. Patrice. Patrice Dubois
June 14, 20187 yr Author 1 hour ago, patrice_bambou said: Regarding drivers, W10 installation normally makes all things automatically, but if you want the latest drivers, you can make updates after that (specially the display driver) Patrice. Thanks you, Patrice So, what you're saying is that W10 will automatically pick up drivers for Mobo, Sound etc? 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
June 14, 20187 yr 9 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said: So, what you're saying is that W10 will automatically pick up drivers for Mobo, Sound etc? Hi Dmitriy, Yes, it will if you are running current and of-the-shelf hardware. If you would happen to have any very specific adapter card in your PC (I don't know, let's say a TV card or a special RAID controller card, for instance) then it would be a good idea to check upfront if vendor drivers exist and if they are compatible with Win 10. When I did my first "migration" to Windows 10 I did it like FunknNasty said - I got a new SSD, put it into my PC and let Windows 10 do a fresh install. I would not recommend an installation over Windows 7. Too many downstream issues may result from improperly migrated settings. Best Regards Frank Frank Hoehn I7-6700K, Asus Z170-A, 32GB DDR4, GeForce GTX 1070, Samsung 850 Evo 500GB, Samsung 850 Evo 1TB (P3D), WD Blue 4TB, Win10 Pro 1803, P3Dv4.4
June 14, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, G-YMML1 said: Since Aerosoft just has announced that their new BUS was tested in W10 environment and no support is planned for W7 That does not mean the Airbus will not work in a computer with W7. It should be other reasons to upgrade. At the end, everybody will have to, but not due to Aerosoft, of course. Cheers, Ed Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
June 14, 20187 yr After installing W10, I checked on the MB manufacturer web site, for the latest drivers related to the MB and W10 and installed them (SATA, USB, ME, even the BIOS etc.), but this is not mandatory. For example, If you install a NVME SSD from Samsung, it is better to install the Samsung drivers, as W10 will install some drivers (that run OK), but not the optimal ones. Patrice Dubois
June 14, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, G-YMML1 said: Thanks you, Patrice So, what you're saying is that W10 will automatically pick up drivers for Mobo, Sound etc? Oh yes indeedy. It will do all that...including auto-installing new drivers that have bugs that break P3D and other content. Were it me, I'd try it first on my Win 7 install, where it is likely to work just fine without the massive butt pain of a rebuild and then forever dealing with Win 10's intrusive nannybot, which has repeatedly broken my flight sim system with bad drivers via forced updates, security update bugs that broke software and made mass changes to file system permissions that were not reversed by the rollback process. Caveat emptor. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
June 14, 20187 yr Hi Folks, My only suggestion - is never perform the Win7 to Win10 "upgrade" - having tried it on three machines - each time I had to go back do a clean install of Win10 to achieve a stable functioning system... Regards, Scott
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