20 hours ago, Rob Ainscough said:

1) Are you noticing any build up of memory usage over time when sitting stationary?   Or maybe I should ask, how was it determine they weren't being disposed?

2) Is it possible real aircraft are being picked up instead of the light weight AI models?  Copied rather than generate GUID?

3) Have you tried using SimConnect_AIReleaseControlEx rather than SimConnect_AIReleaseControl ?  Ex variant being that "Removing the AI will allow for complete manual control of a SimConnect SimObject."

Hi Rob,

@1) No memory build up noticed.  It is only a suspicion that P3D internally is not getting rid of the objects. From the outside, according to the SimConnect protocols followed everything looks fine.

@2) No that's not possible. AI aircraft are created via SimConnect based upon their title. These titles are unique, P3D would have complained about that at start up if it was not.

@3) Yes I did, it makes no difference....

Regards,

Nico

Quote from Ken from another thread about the same issue:

“Hi Gerard

I too have noticed this behaviour but only since upgrading to P3D V4.3 from V4.2.  I still use the same UTL for AI.  It has been driving me crazy.  I´ve disabled each and every addon to do with scenery/texture and still the issue persists.  Now that I have read all the previous replies I am going to disable UTL and see what happens.  Maybe something in V4.3 changed how the sim looks at AI textures.

 

So I disabled UTL and still the same issue.  I did find out that if you use a drop down menu and then come back out then the frame rates increase again but only for about 30 seconds.

Using a GTX760 with the latest drivers.

Ken”

Edited August 10, 20187 yr by GSalden

Did a test last night: EDDF with UTL on 70%, Worldview via EzDok from the tower. Started with 28 fps, sometimes dropped to 19 fps but always came back to 26/27 fps. It runs for 90 mins., no framerate drop.

24 minutes ago, JoeFackel said:

Did a test last night: EDDF with UTL on 70%, Worldview via EzDok from the tower. Started with 28 fps, sometimes dropped to 19 fps but always came back to 26/27 fps. It runs for 90 mins., no framerate drop.

Thanks for testing.

Do you own FT Amsterdam ? If so. could you test there ?

Do you have FTX Germany or True Earth Netherlands ? 

No EHAM, sorry. I can test other major hubs like EGLL or LFPG if you want.

I own True Earth but have not installed it yet, for my other addons see my signation, i have ALL ORBX products of Europe installed. 

7 hours ago, GSalden said:

Do you own FT Amsterdam ? If so. could you test there ?

I did the "point to" install of FT EHAM with v1.1 update ... a few things I noticed:

1.  ADEX_FLYTAMPA_EHAM*.* files were not updated with v1.1, had to manually copy the more recent files I got some time ago
2.  The *PAPI.BGL files were not removed (had to manually delete them)
3.  I had two entries pointing to the library files (on from Add-On process and one native in Scenery.cfg), so removed one

Tested and I have NOT noticed any reduction in FPS overtime, with some very high graphics settings TFR=30 and FFTF=0.33 I was around 27 FPS, watched AI traffic come and go (UTLive).  I was in AS A318.

Can you provide any more details, like specific location at EHAM?

Cheers, Rob.

4 hours ago, Rob Ainscough said:

I did the "point to" install of FT EHAM with v1.1 update ... a few things I noticed:

1.  ADEX_FLYTAMPA_EHAM*.* files were not updated with v1.1, had to manually copy the more recent files I got some time ago
2.  The *PAPI.BGL files were not removed (had to manually delete them)
3.  I had two entries pointing to the library files (on from Add-On process and one native in Scenery.cfg), so removed one

Tested and I have NOT noticed any reduction in FPS overtime, with some very high graphics settings TFR=30 and FFTF=0.33 I was around 27 FPS, watched AI traffic come and go (UTLive).  I was in AS A318.

Can you provide any more details, like specific location at EHAM?

Cheers, Rob.

Hi Rob,

Thanks fior testing at Schiphol too.

Regarding FT Amsterdam Schiphol : Emilios could better make a correct V4.3 installer instead.

 

My testing point next to rw 24:

N52 18.11 - E4 46.39 - Heading 305

FT Amsterdam + True Eart Netherlands

 

2 minutes ago, GSalden said:

 

 

Nice demo of PSXseeconTraffic!

Thx,

Nico

Edited August 11, 20187 yr by kiek

1 hour ago, kiek said:

Nice demo of PSXseeconTraffic!

Thx,

Nico

Thanks Nico.

Your program makes it look so realistic. Looking at PSXseeconTraffic aircraft adds so much to realism.

Nico was so kind to let me test a new beta which keeps the amount of parked aircraft about the same. Because there are arriving aircraft which also park at a gate the amount of parked aircraft was going up over time.

Tests done with a triple view setup :

PSXseeconTraffic beta test :

 

Start 12.23 : 33.2 - 34.8

12.45 :  27.6 - 29.7

13.07 : 29.4 - 30.1

13.22 : 27.2 - 30.0

13.51 : 26.9 - 29.8

14.18 : 26.6 - 29.1

 

I succeeded in getting Traffic Global Early Acces to run so I tested that one too :

 

Start 08.38 : 35.8 - 38.2 ( high because of a longer startup )

09.06 : 33.8 - 35.2

09.37 : 32.3 - 34.0

Very stable for just over 1 hour, then :

10.20 : 27.9 - 29.2

10.31 : 27.4 - 25.6

10.45 : 27.1 - 25.5

I have tried TG EA also with 1 monitor and then the framerate remained stable for almost 3h . Then it started to decline.

Test without AI for 3h : start 38 - end 36

It is like AI Traffic is filling up V4.3 till a certain level after which the fps start to drop...

 

 

On 8/11/2018 at 12:57 AM, GSalden said:

My testing point next to rw 24:

N52 18.11 - E4 46.39 - Heading 305

FT Amsterdam + True Eart Netherlands

Tried to setup the same location as you with same add-ons with the exception I'm using UTLive for AI traffic.  I don't know how you have you add-ons configured (especially Orbx Netherlands and FT EHAM) so I included setting in my video.  After 2 hours there was no drop in FPS, remained very consistent (I even transition to dusk).  Upper left is MSI Afterburner data covering FPS (I enlarged the data post production so it's easier to see):

Here is the MSI Afterburner complete 2hr log of data if your interested: MSI AB - EHAM data log file

Was also running HiFI AS4 weather.  Are you absolutely sure you don't have duplicate references to the FlyTampa libraries (one in scenery.cfg and one defined via add-ons process)?  

Cheers, Rob.

Thanks for testing Rob.

My settings for Orbx and FT EHAM are about the same as yours.

Like me with 1 monitor you also have a consistent framerate.

However , I normally use a triple view setup and Schiphol is much more zoomed in and also the aircraft fill up a lot of the screens.  That is costing fps.

No double entries for FT Schiphol. And without AI no drop , even after 3h.

As I wrote in my former post , it is like the Sim is up to a certain max level and then drops the framerate. Steve explained that very well . As I did not experience that in former versions I find it a pity to bring settings down to compensate. And I always want to use the latest version.

Hi Gerard, what is the actual total size of all your AI textures?

 

Good that you’ve mentioned it :

PSXseeconTraffic AI Traffic by default with HD textures is 33 Gb.

I have resized the livery textures to half and now it is 13 Gb.

Traffic Global has 4Gb of AI Traffic.

 

 

@Rob Ainscough 
lets say with one scenery line up all calls are good with no issues while another line up has continues errors,
is it possible that "error reporting" is effecting some of the test results as data being collected?

@GSalden
hows your "error reporting" setting look?

 

Edited August 12, 20187 yr by Chris Bell