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Turbine Duke engine out in mid flight

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I've flown this plane many times without problems, but on this flight of 300 miles the right engine cut out.

All gauges were in the green, airspeed well below overspeed indicator, and the oil doors were fully closed.

The annunciation panel pointed to oil pressure, but I can't identify what was causing the problem.

Has anyone else encountered this problem or maybe have a solution?

John

Are random failures turned on?

Greg

 

Greg Morin

Commercial ASMEL Instrument CFI

Beta Tester i Blue Yonder, Flightbeam and Milviz

 

A spiking condition lever axis will shut down the engine if it goes to 0, even just for a fraction of a second.

The oil pressure could be a result of the shutdown instaed of a cause.

Regards

 

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
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If he has not changed the setting in the Turbine Duke config utility, there will be a VERY LOW chance of a random engine failure (even if everything is done "by the book").

Christopher Low

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I have experienced this quite often in the past  

The advice I have followed (which seems to avoid the problem) is to always start up with a default aircraft before switching to the Duke. 

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Thanks guys!

John,

      I assume that you are talking about the Real Air Turbine Duke? I've flown this aircraft a lot and used to get a similar situation. It was always the starboard engine that went - quite dramatically with oil spread all over the engine nacelle!

     I actually spent a lot of time talking to Rob Jones about this problem and we never really came to a conclusion. The only thing that I would say is that opening the oil doors was a standard part of my pre engine start routine. I never flew with them shut so I would suggest opening the oil doors before starting the engines and leaving them open until you land.

       Even so  this is still one of the best aircraft around for FSX and I guess the other one as well!

       The loss of Real Air was understandable and I hope both Rob and Sean are well.

       Incidentally it is still possible to get  hold of some, but not all, of Real Air aircraft. There are certain aircraft that are available in CD form - I have bought the Spitfire recently and the SF-60 both from a reputable source - one of the biggest flight sim providers in the UK. So if you hanker for the best aircraft with a fan on the front try searching around!

All the best and hope you get a solution, because as I still fly the Duke I would be interested to know what you find out.

Malcolm Wright

 

Another one here where that use to happen, my solution was to keep torque, ITT and NG in the green arc all the time and fly with the oil doors open. Since doing this I've not had an engine failure, although they were a bit challenging at times. There was a two page document posted sometime ago called "Turbine Duke V2 Flight Operations" , which has some really useful information regarding various settings, I think it was here at AVSIM?

Good luck,

Martin

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Thank you both!

John

3 hours ago, MartinRex007 said:

There was a two page document posted sometime ago called "Turbine Duke V2 Flight Operations" , which has some really useful information regarding various settings, I think it was here at AVSIM?

That was mine and can be found in this previous topic:
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/488532-setting-pressurization-how-to-avoiding-the-red-cabin-alt-hi-warning/

The document is a .jpeg image in that topic and can be saved with a right click on it, then "save picture as".... It may be two images, one for each page.  The files are formatted to fit on 5.5" by 8.5" paper, which is an 8 1/2  X 11 sheet of paper cut in half.  Fits then on a small clipboard.  For my use I put the two pages back-to-back and embossed them in plastic.  They can also be put on a smart phone or tablet and referenced that way during flight.

Edited by fppilot

Frank Patton
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Frank, thanks for this chart.  I'll have it laminated.    The Turbine Duke is one of the best modeled aircraft and certainly a pleasure to fly!

John

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