Exactly.  I’d rather have an updated version for a low cost than have nothing at all.

I am buying for the full price. Jeppesen has updated ground charts earlier in the year is the LatinVFR layout up to date? The ground photo looks bad resolution and the ground textures look default. No competing scenery so I am going to most likely buy. LatinVFR could do better than re-compile the afcad and place dynamic light objects.

5 hours ago, DJJose said:

I agree that FT Corfu is one of the best addons for P3D.

As for LatinVFR's Bermuda, the terminal textures are not up to FT standards.

But, for the upgrade price, I'm not going to say "its not very detailed and not up to much." These types of statements make devs think twice about upgrading fsx scenery to p3d v4. A little gratitude goes a long way.

Gratitude for what? I don't owe them anything 

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6 hours ago, DJJose said:

I agree that FT Corfu is one of the best addons for P3D.

As for LatinVFR's Bermuda, the terminal textures are not up to FT standards.

But, for the upgrade price, I'm not going to say "its not very detailed and not up to much." These types of statements make devs think twice about upgrading fsx scenery to p3d v4. A little gratitude goes a long way.

 

37 minutes ago, tooting said:

Gratitude for what? I don't owe them anything

I don't usually agree with Pete, but he's absolutely correct on this one. Developers are commercial entities and this one is charging €5 of your cash to 'make it work' / tart-it up a bit for P3D4 if you already owned it.

Someone's even willing to pay €20 plus tax to get an airport featuring "highly detailed terminal and airport buildings" and "highly detailed ground polygons..." despite it looking like it was made for FS2002.
For €2 more you could get their much more worthwhile KSAN or LEBL sceneries.

If anything, developers should show gratitude to users willing to pay anything, especially full cost for something that has had very little work done to make them 'compatible'. Compare this to how FlyTampa deals with upgrading their excellent stuff at no extra cost.

I give my gratitude to the doctors, nurses and radiotherapy staff who have kept my mother cancer free for 18 months, they are unsung hero's,and on a lesser note a crew that operates max discretion into a day off  after a horrendous day. That's gratitude at both end of the spectrum. 

I however couldnt give less of a toss if a business makes a product or not,i'm a customer. I put bread on his table, and a roof over his head, I have no gratitude for him, its the other way around. This is what i tell crews that wont do discretion of work into a day off to the get customers either home or to their holiday destination. 

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Well, perhaps "gratitude" is a bit too strong a term.  How about "appreciation?"

I do "give a toss" if these small developers make or update a product--without them the sim world would be a pretty sterile place, and most of them could put bread on their tables far more effectively doing something else with their time and talents.  I may be a customer, but I recognize that by the time a dev pays for the tools of the trade (anyone priced a license for 3DS Max lately?), spends hundreds of hours on research, modelling, coding and artwork, and then loses upwards of 30% of the sales price to the resellers, I'm not putting much bread on anyone's table.  They're not doing it just for the money...the pay, on its own, isn't enough to justify the work much of the time.  So I don't take the arrogant position that I am doing them a favor by paying for a scenery, even if it's not in the top-shelf superb class.  I just hope those of us that do actually buy the decent products will make it worth their while to keep at it.  I don't think I am the only guy in this crowd that's bought an add-on scenery for someplace less than interesting to me because I want to support the developer's continued work.

There are plenty of devs that haven't updated decent sceneries that worked OK in FSX.  I'd appreciatively pay 5 gazinks right now for a P3Dv4 version of my Madrid, Lisbon, Bangkok, Jakarta, Santa Domingo, Tegucigalpa, Cayman Islands, Shannon, Dublin, or Tel Aviv sceneries for FSX.

Regards

 

Maybe just "thankful." 😀

13 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Well, perhaps "gratitude" is a bit too strong a term.  How about "appreciation?"

I do "give a toss" if these small developers make or update a product--without them the sim world would be a pretty sterile place, and most of them could put bread on their tables far more effectively doing something else with their time and talents.  I may be a customer, but I recognize that by the time a dev pays for the tools of the trade (anyone priced a license for 3DS Max lately?), spends hundreds of hours on research, modelling, coding and artwork, and then loses upwards of 30% of the sales price to the resellers, I'm not putting much bread on anyone's table.  They're not doing it just for the money...the pay, on its own, isn't enough to justify the work much of the time.  So I don't take the arrogant position that I am doing them a favor by paying for a scenery, even if it's not in the top-shelf superb class.  I just hope those of us that do actually buy the decent products will make it worth their while to keep at it.  I don't think I am the only guy in this crowd that's bought an add-on scenery for someplace less than interesting to me because I want to support the developer's continued work.

There are plenty of devs that haven't updated decent sceneries that worked OK in FSX.  I'd appreciatively pay 5 gazinks right now for a P3Dv4 version of my Madrid, Lisbon, Bangkok, Jakarta, Santa Domingo, Tegucigalpa, Cayman Islands, Shannon, Dublin, or Tel Aviv sceneries for FSX.

Regards

 

It's not about every scenery having to be in the top-shelf superb class, rather it's the lack of any effort beyond the absolute bare minimum in bringing it to P3D4. I believe I can say that that's the case for many others too.

Our love of simming and of the developers' work means that we are willing to pay our cash for their artwork - it works both ways, these products are not necessities (even though it might feel like that sometimes! 😁)

Fortunately for all of us, some developers (of differing quality) have realised that there is a gap that needs filling so Madrid, Lisbon and Tel Aviv are actively being worked on.