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Hi Folks,

RE: Pilots of the Caribbean

This time of year - I always start thinking of all things warm and tropical... I've been looking to add a scenery or two to build out the Caribbean region for me - came across this developer who I've never heard of before - who has two - they look good - however - I can't find a video or any other screenshots than those provided by the developer...

Does anyone have any experience with these guys ?

Looking for a PIREP especially on the following two:

  • St Vincent
  • St Lucia 

Just from the screens I've seen - the satellite imagery looks a bit oversaturated in color - but other than that they look good... Covers the whole island - custom autogen - airports look fairly well modeled in the limited shots...

Here's their site: http://fsdg-online.com/

Thanks...

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Regards,
Scott

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Hi Scott,

FSDG has some really nice sceneries (such as Paro & Thessaloniki) but St. Vincent is so bad that I decided not to buy anything else from FSDG.

I don't like the washed out textures, mesh is not smooth and crisp, and the night lighting is awful. I gave the dev some suggestions, but nothing was ever done to improve the scenery, so I passed on St. Lucia.

A better option of St Vincent is coming soon by Richer Simulations. Check out their Facebook page.

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31 minutes ago, DJJose said:

Hi Scott,

FSDG has some really nice sceneries (such as Paro & Thessaloniki) but St. Vincent is so bad that I decided not to buy anything else from FSDG.

I don't like the washed out textures, mesh is not smooth and crisp, and the night lighting is awful. I gave the dev some suggestions, but nothing was ever done to improve the scenery, so I passed on St. Lucia.

A better option of St Vincent is coming soon by Richer Simulations. Check out their Facebook page.

Hi Jose,

Thanks - LOL - saved me a few bucks - much appreciated - and a bit disappointing - as they look like they spent some effort on it...

This is what I have now in the area (TropSim is kind of marginal quality but better than default):

  • LVFR - TJSJ Puerto Rico
  • FlyTampa - St. Martin, St Barts, Saba
  • TropSim - St Thomas
  • TropSim - Antigua
  • TropSim - Guadeloupe

Had some Taxi2Gate - but I don't think they're v4 compatible - so I haven't loaded them...

I'll take a look at Richer Simulations - another I haven't heard of...

Regards,
Scott

 

 

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I fly into TropicalSim’s MDPC, TNCA and TNCC a lot, good sceneries for the price (especially if you pick them up when they are frequently on sale).  TAPA is nice too.

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One more I’ll add is Dream Flight MDPP.    Only caveat is that it is not yet 100% P3Dv4 compatible, some of the autogen is black but the airport itself is very nice and has an interesting approach over high terrain.  Currently on sale.

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4 minutes ago, regis9 said:

One more I’ll add is Dream Flight MDPP.    Only caveat is that it is not yet 100% P3Dv4 compatible, some of the autogen is black but the airport itself is very nice and has an interesting approach over high terrain.  Currently on sale.

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the tips - I'll take a look at the ones I don't have - to see if they're v4 compatable... To be fair to TropSim - their more recent work is substantially better than it was a few years back... While I've had Antigua - I only just bought St Thomas and Guadeloupe - haven't even loaded them yet...

Regards,
Scott

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No problem!  Like you I spend a lot of my winter flying transporting virtual passengers to warmer climates so i give these airports a good workout January -  April.

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I’ve always enjoyed the approach to Martinique TFFF (Forte-de-France) as the airport sits in an island cove.  I believe Tropicalsim makes the airport.

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Hi Scott

I bought few months ago St Lucia because I landed there many times in my previous DC10 flight engineer life. I really love it and it recreates very well St Lucia I knew

Cheers

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I agree about FSDG disappointing with washed out colors for St. Vincent and St. Lucia, but they redeem themselves with La Romana (MDLR) light. Actually nice.

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TFFR (Guadeloupe) is from T2G. This TFFF(Martinique) which is TropSim. I have both, very faithfull really good renditions. These were our destinations to the French West Indies with St Marteen. MDPP , TJSJ, TNCA, TNCB, TNCC, all are very good too.

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11 minutes ago, Pat Mussotte said:

Hi Scott

I bought few months ago St Lucia because I landed there many times in my previous DC10 flight engineer life. I really love it and it recreates very well St Lucia I knew 

Cheers

Hi Pat,

So you like FSDG St. Lucia ?

I saw a post on FSDeveloper after finding them last night that they were doing Martinique to complete their trifecta  - too bad they don't listen to their customers a bit more...

Hah - DC-10 - too cool - used to love the old Erik Cantu model back in FS9 - once you figured out the default state was grossly over MTOW and you had to lessen the load before using it... It didn't really need 12,000 foot runways to get airborne - LOL... I had found a good sound set for it - very unique - liked it very much as well... All it lacked was a professional panel...

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the input as well...

Regards,
Scott 

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I agree for the colours "a bit" over saturated, but the airport and the surroundings are very well modeled. When I arrive with my MD11(in FSX) I step back few years ago and I recognize St Lucia no doubt. Don't know for the DC10 you are talking about but a good one is the HJG.

Regards

Pat

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3 hours ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Folks,

RE: Pilots of the Caribbean

This time of year - I always start thinking of all things warm and tropical... I've been looking to add a scenery or two to build out the Caribbean region for me - came across this developer who I've never heard of before - who has two - they look good - however - I can't find a video or any other screenshots than those provided by the developer...

Does anyone have any experience with these guys ?

Looking for a PIREP especially on the following two:

  • St Vincent
  • St Lucia 

Just from the screens I've seen - the satellite imagery looks a bit oversaturated in color - but other than that they look good... Covers the whole island - custom autogen - airports look fairly well modeled in the limited shots...

Here's their site: http://fsdg-online.com/

Thanks...

st-vincent6.png

29425520_2020675191507291_23297726213668

SL4.jpg

Regards,
Scott

Take a look at RICHER SIMULATIONS - CARIBSKY - ANTIGUA 2018 FSX P3D, coupled with Tropical sims TAPA and it's pretty amazing in V4.4. Another which isn't new but still good and a short hop from there is Latin VFR's TJSJ. And off course their is Fly Tampa's TNCM.

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Hi Folks,

OK - so the consensus is that "Richer Simulations" provides far superior work than "FSDG" in the Caribbean... I took a look at their products and I guess I would be interested in their three latest ones - Barbados, St Kitts, and Antigua - for V4 compatibility...

It looks like they don't do the airports on the island they model though - right ? Just the satellite terrain, autogen, mesh, and night lighting ?

So Antigua I'm assuming could use TropSim's TAPA ?

What do we use for Barbados and St Kitts ? I have T2G St Kitts but I thought it had issues in V4 and I don't want to start loading only marginally working scenery...

I'm also not a fan of harsh demarcation lines between airport and surrounding scenery - it doesn't have to be perfect but it can't be a glaring deficiency...

Thanks - appreciate all the input on this topic...

Regards,
Scott

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37 minutes ago, sbague1 said:

Take a look at RICHER SIMULATIONS - CARIBSKY - ANTIGUA 2018 FSX P3D, coupled with Tropical sims TAPA and it's pretty amazing in V4.4. Another which isn't new but still good and a short hop from there is Latin VFR's TJSJ. And off course their is Fly Tampa's TNCM.

Scott mentioned that he had those airports.

I have all the Richer Simulations Island scneries and my favorite from best to worst are:

1) St. Kitts paired with T2G TKPK (They work great!)

2) Antigua paired with TAPA.

3) Grenada X

4) Barbados paired with the freeware TBPB

Tropicalsim titles are all good to very good, especially the titles that were updated to P3D v4.

 

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3 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Folks,

OK - so the consensus is that "Richer Simulations" provides far superior work than "FSDG" in the Caribbean... I took a look at their products and I guess I would be interested in their three latest ones - Barbados, St Kitts, and Antigua - for V4 compatibility...

It looks like they don't do the airports on the island they model though - right ? Just the satellite terrain, autogen, mesh, and night lighting ?

So Antigua I'm assuming could use TropSim's TAPA ?

What do we use for Barbados and St Kitts ? I have T2G St Kitts but I thought it had issues in V4 and I don't want to start loading only marginally working scenery...

I'm also not a fan of harsh demarcation lines between airport and surrounding scenery - it doesn't have to be perfect but it can't be a glaring deficiency...

Thanks - appreciate all the input on this topic...

Regards,
Scott

See my previous post.

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1 minute ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Jose,

Gotcha - thanks...

Perfect...

Regards,
Scott

Let me know if you want me to post pics of all the RS tittles with the addon airports. They look very good together. My only gripe about the RS tittles is that at night there are issues with the light poles. They look great, but you need to lower the AG to dense or less to attain good performance. If you have a good computer, this might not be an issue.

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You might try out freeware Emerald Mesh 10M Terrain Mesh for Puerto Rico. It also includes the US Virgin Islands.

I completed an extensive "Caribbean Trek" last February and March, albeit with FSX.  I chronicled much of it in the screen shots forum here.  You can do an advanced search here on Avsim with the two words "Carribean Trek" and click the search option to search for only all words in the search box. Not sure how often I remarked which scenery I used.  Each day was a different post.

I looked at a wide variety of scenery options as I planned the trek, but sorry that I failed to take notes.  I have some Latin VFR for the Cozumel, Cayman Islands, and Montego Bay, and Blueprint's San Juan (TJSJ).  

For some of my destinations there was only one option, and if it was freeware I used it.  Some of those covered multiple islands/airports.  I was more interested in getting airports upgraded from default rather than past that being particular picky about items like saturation.  Of note here. I seemed to see the blue Caribbean waters as over done in the scenery's. But recently I have viewed recently posted Youtube real life videos of a Caribbean trek by "C310 Pilot" and have changed my mind.  Might look at some of those for points of reference.  That trek was to the Bahama's.

The multiple selection of commercial payware I found was typically for airports with more known excitement, like St Marteen and St. Barts.  I viewed Youtube videos to make my decisions. 

Enjoy your trek!  I plan another one this coming winter.  I like to infuse some local photos and stories into my screen shot posts.

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Hi Frank,

Yep - I caught parts of your tour - very nice how you included some of the local flavor - certainly added interest...

Yeah - at this point - I have enough really good airports to keep me busy - I'd prefer not to visit ones that aren't so great... I'm including all the ORBX Freeware airports in the good mix - because they're good enough for me and there's literally hundreds of those... I spend a great deal of time visiting them...

I think I'll try the popular choice here and pick up Richer Sims - St Kitts and Antigua - since I already have the airports associated with the islands... Hopefully T2G St. Kitts doesn't give me an issue - I could swear I saw a post where someone was having issues with it in v4... I remember one of the gripes about T2G St Kitts was the limited satellite coverage on the island - now - I should get the best of both worlds...

Regards,
Scott 

 

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I used to fly the 747 into Saint Lucia quite a lot, we used to do Barbados to St Lucia and back sometimes as a shuttle flight on long layovers in Barbados, of course to 747 was the perfect aircraft for such a route ! really good fun though !

I bought the FSDG St Lucia scenery as I always used to wonder what it would be like to fly out of the Castries airport on the North of the Island as the coach used to drive along its perimeter on the way to the hotel we used when staying on the Island.

The scenery package isn't bad for the price for the whole Island and two airports.If there's one word to describe St Lucia from the air it would be green, though I agree, not quite this Kermit green though, it looks better from about 5,000ft though. There's some strange autogen with buildings sticking out from the side of hills and tower blocks south of the international Airport which may be there in real life but I certainly don't remember them and they're not on current charts. A nice touch is the helicopter that shuttles between the 2 airports, that always seemed to be taking off or landing whenever I flew in there so we had to keep a look out for it,so it's nice to see it doing its own thing as usual in the sim. On the whole I'd agree with Pat the package does replicate quite nicely the feeling of going into St Lucia in real life. It's not perfect, or anything like an Orbx package, but it's far from terrible , especially for it's price.

I've got my first real world Barbados trip since spring coming up next month, really looking forward to heading down to the Caribbean again for some sun and rum, it's a great area to fly in, both real and simulated. 

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Lat time I flew to St. Lucia, we stayed at the Sandals Halcyon. When I left, I took a chopper from TLPC-TLPL  and the Pilot had to make a stop at the Hilton Hotel located in between the Piton Mountains. It's an experience I still cherish to this day.

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7 hours ago, Pat Mussotte said:

I agree for the colours "a bit" over saturated, but the airport and the surroundings are very well modeled. When I arrive with my MD11(in FSX) I step back few years ago and I recognize St Lucia no doubt. Don't know for the DC10 you are talking about but a good one is the HJG.

Regards

Pat

That's interesting (the HJG model).  I have flown various HJG aircraft in the past, but now I'm using a modded version of the CLS DC-10 HD.  I'm sure you're pretty familiar with the FE position and could compare them well.  I may have to try out the HJG model.

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10 hours ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Jose,

Thanks - LOL - saved me a few bucks - much appreciated - and a bit disappointing - as they look like they spent some effort on it...

This is what I have now in the area (TropSim is kind of marginal quality but better than default):

  • LVFR - TJSJ Puerto Rico
  • FlyTampa - St. Martin, St Barts, Saba
  • TropSim - St Thomas
  • TropSim - Antigua
  • TropSim - Guadeloupe

Had some Taxi2Gate - but I don't think they're v4 compatible - so I haven't loaded them...

I'll take a look at Richer Simulations - another I haven't heard of...

Regards,
Scott

 

 

I really wish Tropsim TIST was better. But unfortunately if you're running Orbx Vector and mesh, the hill behind the terminal is raised and I cannot fix it. I've disable all files that could conflict in vector.  Also the scenery is an unnecessary stutter fest despite decent frames. 

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