Ha! Ha! Ha!

Back to memories? My 1st PC was a 286 16MHz, 1 Mo RAM and HDD 200 Mo. Even FS4 was very slow on this machine.

I don't remember the graphic card but I know it was not a VLB one. How happy I was when I had sold it to buy my 486 DX2 66 Mhz with 4 Mo RAM!!!  How happy I was when I saw the Cessna photographic panel with FS5.0! 😁😁😁

as we stuck in memories...i remember that i needed to have a special startdisk on a 3.1/4 floppy to free enough ram on my 486 PC at start up, there was minimum of 512 kb (yes, kilobyte) needed for FS 5. Then i got a Pentium 90 which was the holy Gral that time. And i´ve put my first 3-D-FX add-on card into it beside an ELSA 2-D GPU with i think 512 kb RAM. That was absolutely high-end gaming that time.😲 

Still soldiering on, but with little success.  The BIOS of the new MSI MEG z390 ACE looks happy, CPU at 4.70 and the memory sorted at 3200.  Trying to install the OS on SSD dedicated to the OS only.  P3D was on an M.2 SSD 500 that is now wiped and ready. I just can't install a stable copy of Windows 10 to the OS.   I've tried the Custom install option (wiped C:) three ways to the clean C:, first with a written OS USB, then with the original Win 10 USB, then a new Win USB that is a more recent build.  Still varied error messages and no Windows 10.  Google only suggested missing drivers for the on-board wifi - wrote those drivers to a USB on another PC but although they appeared to install OK, didn't change the blue screen result.  I'm losing the will to live....  Wiped SSD for c:, wiped P3D SSD on d:, new windows 10 USB - install doesn't work.  I think the install is looking for something missing like drivers but I've no idea what.  Any help please!

Is the bios loaded with default values. Install OS with defaults set and then drivers.

Howard,

Thank-you so much - the perfect answer.

I'll explain for the benefit of those searching for the same issue in future, to save them what has been over twenty attempts and variations of trying to install Win 10.  

Don't configure the BIOS settings at all before installing Windows 10.  I had the memory configured 'incorrectly' to 3200 Mhz when it should be left at the BIOS default of 2133.  Same with the CPU - leave it at the default factory speed before Win 10 installation.

That's Windows sorted, now at least two evenings work installing P3D and scores of add-ons....

Regards,

Patrick

I'm another case of successful complete hardware upgrade maintaining the Windows and Prepar3D installations untouched. Win10 booted for the first time in the new system pretty normally, thereafter I just had to uninstall/delete some old driver references and make sure the new ones were installed as recommended.

Changer was from ASUS to ASUS motherboard, CPU from Intel to Intel, in this case a 4770K to a 8700K.

This procedure saved me ages reinstalling and tuning everything since my P3D was so packed of stuff.

17 hours ago, MPatrickW said:

I'll explain for the benefit of those searching for the same issue in future, to save them what has been over twenty attempts and variations of trying to install Win 10.  

Don't configure the BIOS settings at all before installing Windows 10.  I had the memory configured 'incorrectly' to 3200 Mhz when it should be left at the BIOS default of 2133.  Same with the CPU - leave it at the default factory speed before Win 10 installation.

I disagree somewhat with this approach, because what can happen is you do get a good install of Windows, then start adjusting your BIOS settings afterwards--and if the PC then becomes unstable, you can corrupt your new Windows installation without even knowing it until much later after putting in all the work to rebuild the system.

After any build or BIOS update is complete, I always start with a good long run of MemTest 86+ (4-12 hours) to make sure the memory at my intended speed, timings and voltage settings is stable before doing anything else.  On a new build, I'll then install Windows and any updates with the CPU at stock speed, then make a backup image of the clean Windows install.  Only then do I begin my CPU overclocking drill.  Once I finish adjusting and testing the overclock, I then recover the base OS install from the backup I made, just in case anything got corrupted during the overclocking process (which almost always results in episodes of instability, blue screens and lockups as I press the limits of the system).  Only then do I start the week-long (no exaggeration) process of installing P3D and something approaching 300 add-ons.

It's a matter of discipline to fight the urge to take shortcuts in this process, and I've been burned a few times by letting my eagerness to get things up and running get the best of me.

Regards

On ‎2‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 7:34 AM, Wanthuyr Filho said:

I'm another case of successful complete hardware upgrade maintaining the Windows and Prepar3D installations untouched. Win10 booted for the first time in the new system pretty normally, thereafter I just had to uninstall/delete some old driver references and make sure the new ones were installed as recommended.

Changer was from ASUS to ASUS motherboard, CPU from Intel to Intel, in this case a 4770K to a 8700K.

This procedure saved me ages reinstalling and tuning everything since my P3D was so packed of stuff.

Yes, I agree to this. It was never such a big deal if you change single hardware components, no matter if you used W10, W7 or even WinXP or W95. I would say that the most painfull change of HW is if you change the motherboard, or if you change major components like Motherboard, harddrive and processor at one step. In this case you have to exspect some issues in driver setups especially for the MB. But even this can be done without a mandatory new install of the OS. Of course, if you want to have everything clean in the registry and even for a better over all feeling, the best way is the re-install of a clean OS.

I have already setup a more than 10 PC with different hardware, because since my first days with PC I´am building my computer myself with single components I´ve personally chosen.  My biggest challenge was 2-3 times when I have to change the motherboard on a running system but I don´t needed to re-install W10 ever.

For many people I would say that it´s religious question most. For some it is mandatory to re-install everything new, even if you just changed the USB-stick you usually used and others like me have never experienced such big issues trust on the OS and driversoftware that they will do their job even if you change hardware.

For instance: once I changed from a HDD with my OS on it to an SSD from Samsung and I was really surprised how easy and well the cloning was done by the software which came with the SSD. But to be honest, this is how it should be anyway. No Issues at all. Upgrading the processor or RAM should not cause any issues in the OS. Same for the GPU if, of course you properly de- and reinstall the drivers.

I promised to report back, once I'd got on top of everything, and want to repeat my thanks to everyone who offered advice. Phew, it took a while... After reinstalling absolutely everything, just for peace of mind and notwithstanding the advice that the reinstall of some items might not have be necessary, I now have what I consider to be the most perfect P3D system.  I'd have been stuck without the great advice I received here, thank-you. I used the MSI BIOS profile overclock of 4.8.  I know these are the simple alternative and not as good as overclocking 'manually' but with a sensible voltage of 1.27 and modest temperatures (CPU 50C in detailed scenery, 78c max in stress tests) for now I'm leaving it at that.  No doubt it can be pushed further, but P3D is now beatifully smooth with fps of 60 in each of three 2480 screens, I'm more than happy.  P3D settings are almost maxed out and the details with smoothness is fabulous.  Thanks again! 

1 hour ago, MPatrickW said:

I promised to report back, once I'd got on top of everything, and want to repeat my thanks to everyone who offered advice. Phew, it took a while... After reinstalling absolutely everything, just for peace of mind and notwithstanding the advice that the reinstall of some items might not have be necessary, I now have what I consider to be the most perfect P3D system.  I'd have been stuck without the great advice I received here, thank-you. I used the MSI BIOS profile overclock of 4.8.  I know these are the simple alternative and not as good as overclocking 'manually' but with a sensible voltage of 1.27 and modest temperatures (CPU 50C in detailed scenery, 78c max in stress tests) for now I'm leaving it at that.  No doubt it can be pushed further, but P3D is now beatifully smooth with fps of 60 in each of three 2480 screens, I'm more than happy.  P3D settings are almost maxed out and the details with smoothness is fabulous.  Thanks again! 

Have fun with your system and P3D 🙂

On 3/17/2019 at 12:15 PM, MPatrickW said:

 No doubt it can be pushed further, but P3D is now beatifully smooth with fps of 60 in each of three 2480 screens, I'm more than happy.  P3D settings are almost maxed out and the details with smoothness is fabulous.  Thanks again! 

As they say - "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

Glad you got it sorted.

 

Vic