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Leonardo Maddog for P3Dv4 autothrottle

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Some time ago, I had the Leonardo Maddog MD-8x series addon for FSX...the latest being a version made in 2010.  The one issue that generally kept me away from flying it in favor of other high-fidelity add-ons was the autothrottles--they hunted back and forth incessantly during flight, and the sound of the engines constantly surging back and forth was like nails on a chalkboard.  AFAIK, that problem was never resolved, and trying to get answers on the support forum was about as difficult as trying to contact departed loved ones via a Yellow Pages psychic.

For those that now fly the current P3Dv4 release of the add-on, has this issue been resolved?  Can it fly through all the phases of flight without constantly cycling the throttles?  Is the automation, in general, stable?

TIA

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

as with the old maddog, once at is engaged and the throttles advance, firewall the throttle levers and let software drive the lever animation:

https://www.flythemaddog.com/forum/index.php?/topic/9609-use-of-throttleclamp-on-takeoff-solved/&do=findComment&comment=51812

R9-9950X3D 32G  | RTX5090 | 3T m.2 | Win11 | vkb-gf ultimate & pedals | virpil cm3 throttle | tm boeing yoke | pimax super uw | DCS

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, kdfw__ said:

as with the old maddog, once at is engaged and the throttles advance, firewall the throttle levers and let software drive the lever animation:

This wasn't a throttle clamp problem during takeoff, but a constant back-and-forth of the throttles trying to hold the selected speed in all phases of flight.  As a rule, I push the throttles up into the dead zone on A/T equipped acft to avoid noise and jitter on the hardware axes from bothering the autothrottles, but this issue was more of an unstable feedback loop that just couldn't find a good power setting to hold a speed.

Regards

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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It's fully sorted in the P3Dv4.

 

Best wishes!

 

Dave Hodges

 

System Specs:  I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.

I would say that not being able to hear the engines from the cockpit, I haven't noticed the engines hunting up and down. I have noticed the throttles and, it follows, the engine gauges constantly moving. 

I can barely hear the engines period. I have the sound add-on installed and use the loud engine configuration and still only hear a whisper.

All that being said, this is one of my favorite aircraft. I'm looking forward to their upcoming update too.

Richard Chafey

 

i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200  - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals

MSFS 2020, DCS

 

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33 minutes ago, RichieFly said:

I would say that not being able to hear the engines from the cockpit, I haven't noticed the engines hunting up and down. I have noticed the throttles and, it follows, the engine gauges constantly moving. 

I can barely hear the engines period. I have the sound add-on installed and use the loud engine configuration and still only hear a whisper.

All that being said, this is one of my favorite aircraft. I'm looking forward to their upcoming update too.

Thats normal, the real aircraft has one of the quietest flight decks despite noisy engines.

 

Dave Hodges

 

System Specs:  I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.

16 hours ago, DaveCT2003 said:

It's fully sorted in the P3Dv4.

 

Best wishes!

 

Can confirm as well go get it!

16 hours ago, RichieFly said:

I would say that not being able to hear the engines from the cockpit, I haven't noticed the engines hunting up and down. I have noticed the throttles and, it follows, the engine gauges constantly moving. 

I can barely hear the engines period. I have the sound add-on installed and use the loud engine configuration and still only hear a whisper.

All that being said, this is one of my favorite aircraft. I'm looking forward to their upcoming update too.

Highly recommend you get the latest TSS sound pack for the maddog

Shom

 

MSFS2024 running on Win 11, 4K screen, Z790 AORUS ELITE AX-W, i9-14900K, MSI 3080Ti, Corsair 2x32GB 6000 MHz, 1+2TB M.2 NVMEs

+1 on the sound pack.Wouldnt hesitate to recommend. Challenging and rewarding aircraft. Since it was one of the first glass jet liners she isn't as refined and intuitive as say the 737NG hence the maddog moniker. 

Vic green

3 hours ago, Shomron said:

Can confirm as well go get it!

Highly recommend you get the latest TSS sound pack for the maddog

I have it. Maybe there's been an update? I'll check.

Thanks

Richard Chafey

 

i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200  - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals

MSFS 2020, DCS

 

16 minutes ago, RichieFly said:

I have it. Maybe there's been an update? I'll check.

Thanks

The new version was released after the maddog x release

Shom

 

MSFS2024 running on Win 11, 4K screen, Z790 AORUS ELITE AX-W, i9-14900K, MSI 3080Ti, Corsair 2x32GB 6000 MHz, 1+2TB M.2 NVMEs

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For the 64-bit P3Dv4.4 version.... there have actually been several updated versions released, and we're currently testing the version with working ACARS, and this will go open beta soon if it hasn't already.

The best site for answers regarding the Maddogx is the MaddogX forums.  Lots of great information there!

Best wishes everyone!

 

 

Dave Hodges

 

System Specs:  I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.

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15 hours ago, DaveCT2003 said:

For the 64-bit P3Dv4.4 version.... there have actually been several updated versions released, and we're currently testing the version with working ACARS, and this will go open beta soon if it hasn't already.

The best site for answers regarding the Maddogx is the MaddogX forums.  Lots of great information there!

Thanks Dave.  Problem is, their forums are only accessible by registered users, so prospective buyers can't see what's in there.

Regards

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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1 hour ago, w6kd said:

Thanks Dave.  Problem is, their forums are only accessible by registered users, so prospective buyers can't see what's in there.

Regards

Hey Bob,

Yeah, I know (I've been a part of the Leonardo team from the start).  Also, I believe the person said they bought the MaddogX at initial release but hasn't updated it since.  So all they have to do is register for the forums, but in this case I believe the person who asked is already registered.

21 hours ago, RichieFly said:

I have it. Maybe there's been an update? I'll check.

The MaddogX has come so far, so very fast, that it's barely the same aircraft that we saw at release!  It's certainly one of the two finest models ever created for Desktop Flight Sim!  The other (of course) is the Majestic Dash 8 Q400.
 

 

Dave Hodges

 

System Specs:  I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.

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