LecLightning56

P3d 4.5 loading issues

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Well, this is interesting. I have downloaded and installed P3D v4.5 content and client and, when having started the program, I get the initial "front page" from LM with Prepar3D displayed on it then everything retreats into the background showing as 30% CPU!

Cannot figure that I have done anything wrong.

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1 minute ago, LecLightning56 said:

Well, this is interesting. I have downloaded and installed P3D v4.5 content and client and, once started the program I get the initial "front page" from LM with Prepar3D displayed on it then everything retreats into the background showing as 30% CPU!

Cannot figure that I have done anything wrong.

Delete your shaders.. 

Also check if the LM screen is out of bounds - aka - outside of the main window.

Regards.

S.

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5 minutes ago, simbol said:

Delete your shaders.. 

Also check if the LM screen is out of bounds - aka - outside of the main window.

Regards.

S.

Have deleted shaders and checked if out of bounds using a second monitor and still no scenario startup screen.

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3 minutes ago, LecLightning56 said:

Have deleted shaders and checked if out of bounds using a second monitor and still no scenario startup screen.

Ok, make a backup of your P3D.cfg file and delete it.

Let P3D to recreate it.. when you launch it again.

s.

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3 minutes ago, simbol said:

Ok, make a backup of your P3D.cfg file and delete it.

Let P3D to recreate it.. when you launch it again.

s.

Bizarre indeed. Deleted prepar3d.cfg file, restarted and same problem.

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1 minute ago, LecLightning56 said:

Bizarre indeed. Deleted prepar3d.cfg file, restarted and same problem.

Weird, reboot the PC?

S.

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20 minutes ago, simbol said:

Weird, reboot the PC?

S.

This is driving me nuts now. I have deactivated and reactivated the P3D licence and still the same thing. Rebooting has not worked.

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1 minute ago, LecLightning56 said:

This is driving me nuts now. I have deactivated and reactivated the P3D licence and still the same thing. Rebooting has not worked.

Try deleting the scenery.cfg. Seen that mentioned a few times when P3D wouldn't start properly.

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7 minutes ago, LecLightning56 said:

This is driving me nuts now. I have deactivated and reactivated the P3D licence and still the same thing. Rebooting has not worked.

Honestly, I would start a new thread...

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6 minutes ago, LecLightning56 said:

This is driving me nuts now. I have deactivated and reactivated the P3D licence and still the same thing. Rebooting has not worked.

Yes try the scenary.cfg, make a backup first as if this is not the cause then you can restore it.

if this fails, then remove all the add-on.xml from your P3D document folder (make a backup first) and try again.

It could be that one add-on is causing this.

Regards,
Simbol

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9 minutes ago, simbol said:

Yes try the scenary.cfg, make a backup first as if this is not the cause then you can restore it.

if this fails, then remove all the add-on.xml from your P3D document folder (make a backup first) and try again.

It could be that one add-on is causing this.

Regards,
Simbol

As per the changelog, Lockheed fixed the issue where autodiscovery addons were being placed into the wrong add-ons.cfg (ProgramData) - and forgotten there, even when deleted/uninstalled. Could be that this is biting us now, depends on how they fixed it, and how the already misplaced addons are supposed to travel to the correct add-ons.cfg (AppData\Roaming). Not sure yet. We may have to manually remove all autodiscovery addons from the \ProgramData\…\add-ons.cfg and let P3D sort it out on the next startup (= all addons where the add-on.xml is in \Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\).

Personally, I would never recommend to delete the scenery.cfg - that makes the user lose all his custom sceneries in there, since P3D can't rebuild those custom entries. If there is a problem, it is not the file itself but a scenery in it - and there are other ways to troubleshoot that.

Best regards

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13 minutes ago, Lorby_SI said:

As per the changelog, Lockheed fixed the issue where autodiscovery addons were being placed into the wrong add-ons.cfg (ProgramData) - and forgotten there, even when deleted/uninstalled. Could be that this is biting us now, depends on how they fixed it, and how the already misplaced addons are supposed to travel to the correct add-ons.cfg (AppData\Roaming). Not sure yet. We may have to manually remove all autodiscovery addons from the \ProgramData\…\add-ons.cfg and let P3D sort it out on the next startup (= all addons where the add-on.xml is in \Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\).

Personally, I would never recommend to delete the scenery.cfg - that makes the user lose all his custom sceneries in there, since P3D can't rebuild those custom entries. If there is a problem, it is not the file itself but a scenery in it - and there are other ways to troubleshoot that.

Best regards

Yea this could be..

S

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Same issue with launching. It shows the initial P3D screen and then disappears. It is shown as running in task manager but no main screen. I have tried running as admin, renaming all the add-on.cfg files along with the prepar3d.cfg but no joy. I have also tried renaming the exe.xml and dll.xml files. Running out of ideas..

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I'm finally in. It would load forever until I deleted the scenery.cfg. Then It would load the initial flight without displaying the startup screen to where you could hear the default scenario but not see anything. Then I uninstalled FSL A319, A320 and Spotlights and it's working now. I remember talk of the same thing happening with the FSL A320 installed on the last update. I have a feeling the problem isn't with the A320 being installed, but that it's the popup message FSL put in there disabling their aircraft with an incompatible version of P3D that screws it up. I don't know why they do that. It will either work or it won't. The controls they put into their software are over-intrusive in my opinion. I get the same annoying popup on the P3D loading screen from them saying that they don't recommend 4xSSAA. Newsflash: Some people have hardware that can run 4XSSAA just fine.

Rant over.

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So far nothing I have tried brings back the Scenario creation screen. I went as far as completely removing the prepar3d folders from AppData/Local AppData/Roaming and ProgramData into a backup directory. Launching re-creates them, but still no Scenario creation screen.

Infuriating! The fact many others are experiencing this also points to a fundamental issue with P3D 4.5.

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Just now, BusheFlyer said:

So far nothing I have tried brings back the Scenario creation screen. I went as far as completely removing the prepar3d folders from AppData/Local AppData/Roaming and ProgramData into a backup directory. Launching re-creates them, but still no Scenario creation screen.

Infuriating! The fact many others are experiencing this also points to a fundamental issue with P3D 4.5.

Sentiments shared completely. Whereas one might expect to use some care as has already been advised in this thread (including uninstalling FSLabs products), the overall flavour is that of something a little amateurish for what one might have hoped to be a more polished and professional product.  

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10 minutes ago, LecLightning56 said:

Sentiments shared completely. Whereas one might expect to use some care as has already been advised in this thread (including uninstalling FSLabs products), the overall flavour is that of something a little amateurish for what one might have hoped to be a more polished and professional product.  

Right,

you disabled all add-ons temporally to check if this get solved?

S.

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27 minutes ago, simbol said:

Right,

you disabled all add-ons temporally to check if this get solved?

S.

 

5 minutes ago, simbol said:

Guys,

Can you confirm that removing FSLabs spotlights and the airplanes is not fixing this? a guys is reporting this was the fix he implemented to get P3D 4.5 working:

https://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6322&t=133133&p=195954#p195954

Regards,
Simbol

Simbol,

I have disabled ALL addons and removed ALL FSLabs products and still not fixed.

Perhaps too early to give up on this one, but very tempted to bite the bullet and do a complete reinstall. 

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10 minutes ago, LecLightning56 said:

Simbol,

I have disabled ALL addons and removed ALL FSLabs products and still not fixed.

Perhaps too early to give up on this one, but very tempted to bite the bullet and do a complete reinstall. 

Hmm 

Do you hear any sound in the background?

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Just now, simbol said:

Hmm 

Do you hear any sound in the background?

None at all, and certainly nothing I would dare to admit to a psychiatrist!

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8 minutes ago, LecLightning56 said:

 

Simbol,

I have disabled ALL addons and removed ALL FSLabs products and still not fixed.

Perhaps too early to give up on this one, but very tempted to bite the bullet and do a complete reinstall. 

Im in the same position. Basically am now running with a clean installation of 4.5.. no addons installed what-so-ever, still no Scenario screen, still have to kill of the process using task manager. A complete reinstall has therefore made no difference.

Seems something fundamental is wrong. I am going to try and remove 4.5 entirely.. and delete any remnant of it under ProgramData etc. Re-download the full installer and hope for the best.

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6 minutes ago, BusheFlyer said:

Im in the same position. Basically am now running with a clean installation of 4.5.. no addons installed what-so-ever, still no Scenario screen, still have to kill of the process using task manager. A complete reinstall has therefore made no difference.

Seems something fundamental is wrong. I am going to try and remove 4.5 entirely.. and delete any remnant of it under ProgramData etc. Re-download the full installer and hope for the best.

I think expletive words apply here my friend! Hopefully if it is LM related, they will issue a fix shortly.

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Right I was driving..

When you see P3D in the task bar, can you use the right click switch to and bring to front? To see if this shows the P3D start up?

simbol 

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21 minutes ago, simbol said:

Right I was driving..

When you see P3D in the task bar, can you use the right click switch to and bring to front? To see if this shows the P3D start up?

simbol 

Sadly no, it doesn't show up on the task bar after the initial loading screen. It runs as a background process in task manager, and therefore there is no UI to switch too. 

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