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Why you shouldn't water cool your PC!

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On the subject of water cooling (or witchcraft lol)

My PC case is the ridiculously humongous, Corsair 780T Graphite.  It’s a monster of a case.
As you can see though from the pic, there are universal mounting brackets, sticking right out into the air flow of the two 140mm fans at the front.
I’d be curious to hear the Avsim consensus on whether or not cutting them flush, might make much of an improvement to the volume of air going through.  If it’ll make a worthwhile difference, I’ll happily cut them off, as I need to always maintain a positive pressure inside due to being in a very dusty environment. The rad is mounted in the top, where I get slightly better temps.

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Windows 10 (x64) - X-Plane 11 - M/B: Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero - CPU: i7 7700k (@5.0GHz) - RAM: 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @ 3200MHz - Video: GTX1080ti - Cooling: Custom water loop (EK 140 Revo D5 pump/res combo, EK EVO CPU block, EK XE360 Rad)

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Well just finished my new build (I9-9900KF OC) with AIO which is more silent as my Nocuta D15 (great cooler) in the old build (I7-6700K OC).

As for all those youtube so called specialists I take them with a grain of salt 😉

Happy with my temps and choice for this build... (have X62 AIO at the front where it should be lol and two more 120 fan's pulling air out :-))

 

 

André
 

Linus knows what he is talking about faster ram is not worth the cost no benefit.

 

Raymond Fry.

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55 minutes ago, rjfry said:

Linus knows what he is talking about faster ram is not worth the cost no benefit.

Unless its liquid cooled!

6 hours ago, rjfry said:

Linus knows what he is talking about faster ram is not worth the cost no benefit.

Have he try it in P3D? 

In lot of games you ar gpu bound no need for fast mems or OC cpu

P3d have both cpu and gpu bound  areas, you have benefits both on cpu oc and fast mems then if it worth it Its up to you, buy a 2666 kit or 3200 no big extra costs for a 5% increase in p3d but buy a rare 4800 or 5000mhz kit is stupid not all mobo cpus can run this speeds and they costs very much.

I have a 4800mhz test kit from galax they ar nice ,but for allday use 4266mhz c16 is ok ,to run xmp speeds like that you need cpu and mobo for that can handel it, worth  it NO i should not buy it on the other hand the price diff 3000mhz to 3600mhz kit is very small a gladly pay the diff to a 3600 kit and get the extra 5% gain in p3d

Hard Ware unboxed have just done a test on ram speeds and games and on CPU bound titles on ultra settings or 4k no real performance advantage with 8 speeds tested 3200 much the same as 4000. but then der8bar has been saying this for some time.

The test was done with an i9.

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Raymond Fry.

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11 hours ago, rjfry said:

Linus knows what he is talking about faster ram is not worth the cost no benefit.

I think you're correct, even for P3D and X-Plane.  I normally have 16Gb of Corsair Vengeance clocked at 3200. I borrowed 16Gb amazing RAM and my system set to XMP2.  Appeared to make ZERO difference to anything FS related; niether FPS or smootheness.

I DID see a reasonable difference, especially in X-Plane, when upping to 32Gb

Windows 10 (x64) - X-Plane 11 - M/B: Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero - CPU: i7 7700k (@5.0GHz) - RAM: 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @ 3200MHz - Video: GTX1080ti - Cooling: Custom water loop (EK 140 Revo D5 pump/res combo, EK EVO CPU block, EK XE360 Rad)

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20 hours ago, Dougal said:

Not that its very important now as Noctua have it sorted with a later release, but the big older coolers that interfered with tall DIMMS is extremely easily fixed with a Dremel;-)  Done it on two separate PCs

 

 

Ha, you're as bad as me Dougal. That's the sort of thing I'd do. 😉 

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20 hours ago, Dougal said:

On the subject of water cooling (or witchcraft lol)

My PC case is the ridiculously humongous, Corsair 780T Graphite.  It’s a monster of a case.
As you can see though from the pic, there are universal mounting brackets, sticking right out into the air flow of the two 140mm fans at the front.
I’d be curious to hear the Avsim consensus on whether or not cutting them flush, might make much of an improvement to the volume of air going through.  If it’ll make a worthwhile difference, I’ll happily cut them off, as I need to always maintain a positive pressure inside due to being in a very dusty environment. The rad is mounted in the top, where I get slightly better temps.

 

 

 

I think cutting the brackets off would make so little difference it wouldn't be worth it to be honest. But like me, when you get the urge to wield your tool, you probably can't resist. 😀

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15 hours ago, jabloomf1230 said:

Lian Li V2120 Case:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112311

It's long out of stock, but NewEgg still has the page for the case online.

 

I used to be a huge fan of Lian Li cases. These days it's Phanteks for me. I'm just stunned how Pahnteks can create such awesome aluminium cases but at such a great price. 

2 minutes ago, martin-w said:

 

 

I think cutting the brackets off would make so little difference it wouldn't be worth it to be honest. But like me, when you get the urge to wield your tool, you probably can't resist. 😀

Yup! I expect I'll end up cutting them off at some point lol.

Long time no speak. Hope you and yours are well

Windows 10 (x64) - X-Plane 11 - M/B: Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero - CPU: i7 7700k (@5.0GHz) - RAM: 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @ 3200MHz - Video: GTX1080ti - Cooling: Custom water loop (EK 140 Revo D5 pump/res combo, EK EVO CPU block, EK XE360 Rad)

4 hours ago, rjfry said:

Hard Ware unboxed have just done a test on ram speeds and games and on CPU bound titles on ultra settings or 4k no real performance advantage with 8 speeds tested 3200 much the same as 4000. but then der8bar has been saying this for some time.

The test was done with an i9.

P3D is another ballgame, iam longtime friend with Roman have discussed this with him and Elmor , is more like when you run the Cpu test in TimeSpy , but in general games  ramspeed for games have a little impact.

You can test TimeSpy if you do things right you see the Difference , in P3D i have 8% more with 4133mhz c15 then with 3200mhz c14, it was the same in FSX 

You dont seem to understand this with mems , have you ever test it your self 

i locked at the video , for example hitman scale and that CB15 not scale on memspeed is well known but if you crank up the uncore 3-4 multis it scale. and i not see any P3D test....

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1 hour ago, martin-w said:

I used to be a huge fan of Lian Li cases.

I could have used you for cooling.😉

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On 3 May 2019 at 2:55 PM, martin-w said:

There is certainly still an abundance of reports of failing pumps. Who knows, in principle I would agree,but to definitively state "VERY" rare without the evidence to back it up might be a bad idea.

About as bad an idea as the earlier post which said they are "prone to early pump failure". Incidentally, abundance is also a bit of a woolly term. I don't want to get into a water/air argument - as I said in my earlier post, fit what you're happiest with.

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