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Haven't seen anyone ask this, and apologoies if it has been...Will Meigs in FSX exist at all? Will it exist and be closed? Or will it exist and be usable?

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If history is an indication it will exist in the state it was when the dataset was closed, which likely means not at all.

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Such is my feeling also. Then allow a third party to put it back (hopefully freeware).But just curious if someone from Microsoft ;-) would have any thoughts on this.

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Ahhh, the old home of FS. I miss arriving and departing from there. It was once the home of many flight simmers first flights I bet - however long they were :-lol I hope it could be included, but I doubt that it will be :-(I was just thinking, why was Meigs the default start location to begin with? what made MS decide to start from there?

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Hi,It was Bruce from Simlogic who made that choice. I believe it was his home airport.Hope this helps,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/Active Sky V6 Development TeamActive Sky V6 Proud SupporterHiFi Beta TeamRadar Contact Supporter

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Hi Jim,just a little correction :-) I'm sure you meant SubLogic. And Bruce Artwick (at least the office)was in Greater Kankakee(KIKK) as far as I remember. But I'm not sure if that was the reason to chose Meigs. Anyway, I'd too love to see it back in FSX. Let's keep our fingers crossed.Rodger :-wave

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>Hi Jim,>>just a little correction :-) >>I'm sure you meant SubLogic. And Bruce Artwick (at least the>office)>was in Greater Kankakee(KIKK) as far as I remember.I thought they (office) were located down in Champaign, Illinois?

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Yep, I had it spelled wrong and then corrected it wrong!I think on the history of FS site this is explained.Hope this helps,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/Active Sky V6 Development TeamActive Sky V6 Proud SupporterHiFi Beta TeamRadar Contact Supporter

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Hi Tom,you are right, I got mixed up, of course it was Champaign.Sorry for any confusion,Rodger :-wave

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Hi Guys,I think the origin (0,0) of the old FS3/FS4 coordinate system was somewhere around Champaign. Back then we did not have latitude/longitude, it simply was a grid that ranged from -16384 to +16383 in each direction. Wonder what exactly was at the origin ?Cheers,Siggy

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It was a nice airport to start from because it offered a cityscape view right from startup, it was oriented N-S with runways 36/18 which made for easy pattern work, it offered the beginner VFR pilot instant orientation (water on my right, must be going north), and it was a nice short flight to an ILS approach at O'Hare.I just started teaching my wife to fly a little bit (she finally agreed to give it a try), so we started out at 'ole Meigs.

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In FS4, Meigs coordinates were 17189 North, and 16671 East. Champaign Willard was 16400 North and 16465 East, so I don't think 0, 0 was near Champaign.Back in SubLogic FS II, I had the Japan Scenery Disk, and the coordinates of Tokyo (Narita) were 18375 North, 32940 East. I'm not sure how all of that worked. :)Rhett

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Thanks, my memory was a bit incorrect then, I guess the range of coordinates was 0...32767 in each direction and 16384,16384 (which is half way) was somewhere in Champaign itself, the grey polygon near the airport :-).Cheers,Siggy

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Bruce did live in Champaign during early development of FS at University of Illinois. Although not a flightsimmer at the time, I recall visiting UI Willard often for number of purposes during that time. Often wondered if we ever unkowingly crossed paths? Wish I had met him and the group who assisted him:-)Having lived in "Chambana", the twin cities of Champaign and Urbana, Il. for over twenty years I assume the "grey polygon" would include some of the housing next to the Blue or Orange UI Golf courses adjacent to UI Willard.Both my sons live there, and a visit last weekend revealed that UI School of Aviation seems to be flourishing:-)

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Well I flew there the year before it closed (a couple shots from my copilot on that flight)-and I paid the huge landing fees/city taxes, high fuel price, and spent some nice money in Chicago for the day before I left.Chicago has lost a huge amount of history, one of the most beautiful airfields to land at in the world, and a lot of revenue from pilot's that used to fly there .I think it was a travesty how it was closed, and Chicago has lost a lot....I think it would be great if it was in the sim, if only to remind Chicago of what a brilliant place has been lost thru underhand methods.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/148549.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/148550.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/148551.jpg

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Those are great shots.. IMHO, I think Mayor Daley should've been impeached for the manner in which he closed Meigs.. His closure of the airport was unlawful and in breach of a federal contract that would've kept the airport open until 2008 or 2009, IIRC.I still think someone should take him out of office, and then start the ball rolling for Meigs to reopen.. To be honest, I don't think anybody should be elected to office as many times as Daley has.. Heck, he was freakin' mayor of Chicago when the first Blues Brothers movie was made in 1980!!Sorry about the short diatribe, but I still get angry about this issue.

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I miss megs field! it is too bad what he did to it.Anyway, I hope they dont take it out of FSX, because going by that criteria, you would also have to take out VHHX as well since it is now a bunch of commercially developed land

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