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I've added Flight Environment, Ground Environment and just recently VOZ, and they have added so much to the environmental look of the sim. So now I wonder if FSX can be much better than what I have now. If Microsoft enhances the airports a lot and maybe does a lot with roads and traffic, then that's something to look forward to. Otherwise, I'm not expecting much of an improvement over what I now have. I hope I'm wrong.

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Hi, I noticed alot more details in FSX in screenshots, the ground resolution are better to any fs2004 addons out there, fs9 are limited to 256x256 blurrycartonish look at ground, fsx is clean with more details using 1024x1024 resolution will improve alot the lower and higher altitude. They have better mesh resolution and landclass world wide. See here http://blogs.technet.com/pixelpoke/archive.../21/417847.aspxUnless I am wrong, FSX is not only improving only the ground, they are using DirectX9 stuff etc not available in fs9 and I think there is alot of new information not revealed yet what's about these AI Traffic, Traffic control, effect, Autogen etc featureBestPaul

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>I've added Flight Environment, Ground Environment and just>recently VOZ, and they have added so much to the environmental>look of the sim. So now I wonder if FSX can be much better>than what I have now. If Microsoft enhances the airports a>lot and maybe does a lot with roads and traffic, then that's>something to look forward to. Otherwise, I'm not expecting>much of an improvement over what I now have. I hope I'm>wrong. Let's see, even after your most cherished enhancements you still won't get the following:1. 1 meter per pixel or greater ground detail2. Self reflecting textures3. Moving traffic4. Dynamic worlds (Animals, Birds, Dolphins, Traffic)5. 5.1 Surround Sound6. Dark Blue sky at high altitude7. Improved ATC8. Reflective water9. Enhanced weather systems10. Completely redone Multi-Player system11. Moving airport facilities12. Self shadowing aircraft13. Wet pavement14. MAYBE you can get some feel of the New Mission based system with something like FS Cargo.15. All updated/new aircraft inventory16. Light bloomsThat's just the bits and pieces here and there presented so far as compared to what you can get with current FS9. If you like what you have then it will be THAT MUCH BETTER with FSX!Carmine http://forums.avsim.net/images/wave.gifhttp://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7118/phoenixtp8mg.jpg

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And FSX is also a new platform to build upon. What we see in the screenshots now is just the beginning.Imagine, say 1,5 years from now, when the add on developers are really starting to discover all the possibilities, pure magic!

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>And FSX is also a new platform to build upon. What we see in>the screenshots now is just the beginning.>Imagine, say 1,5 years from now, when the add on developers>are really starting to discover all the possibilities, pure>magic!>>I have to agree here. FSX out of the box is still greater than FS9 with all the addon's. At the same entry level price of FS9 (probably). I'm upgrading. With all those extra features, plus a mentioned much better SDK for the developers to work with... I bet it's less than 6 months before FSX looks 10x better than FS9. I'm not dissing FS9, it's wonderful in every way to me. But, FSX is greatly superior... So far from what we've seen anyway.And, with the newer SDK and editing tools, we should be able to pump out 3rd party add-ons very soon after launch! :)

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>1. 1 meter per pixel or greater ground detail>2. Self reflecting textures>3. Moving traffic>4. Dynamic worlds (Animals, Birds, Dolphins, Traffic)>5. 5.1 Surround Sound>6. Dark Blue sky at high altitude>7. Improved ATC>8. Reflective water>9. Enhanced weather systems>10. Completely redone Multi-Player system>11. Moving airport facilities>12. Self shadowing aircraft>13. Wet pavement>14. MAYBE you can get some feel of the New Mission based>system with something like FS Cargo.>15. All updated/new aircraft inventory>16. Light bloomsLets not forget the ability to go higher than 100,000ft! ;)

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Quote:++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Lets not forget the ability to go higher than 100,000ft! ;)++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++W3rd! I've been waiting for the removal of that 100,000-foot flight altitude cap for eons. Now that we have it, can we say Space Shuttle for Flight Simulator?I certainly can't wait!

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If you think FS9 is great with all these add ons imagine the add ons that will be created for FS10, then you can compare.

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>I hope I'm wrong.Yep, you're wrong.........

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FS9 is nearly three years old ;) I'll buy FSX as soon as it's released :)

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Lets add the following to your list:1)better textures and more variety of textures. 2)Much higher res Mesh3)None repeating tiles at high altitudes!4)Better Autogen and Smarter Augtogen placement, (the trees line along the farms for example instead of springkled all over.)5)More land class types and more regional varieties6)Use of Bump Mapping to create, for example, rivets on aircraft!7)smarter road placement. Roads now hug the valleys and don't have steep impossible uphills/downhills8)Much better road network like USA Road. Also divided roads9)More detailed airports10)Increased scenery 11)Ultra light/soaring 12)Earth Curvature now visible at high altitutes!13)walk about viewing similar to Active Camera!14)detailed coast lines per UT!15)Sea Vessel AIs16)more photo realistic areas..well at least downtown seattle! lol17)Improved flight planner

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Whoa! Where did you hear that FSX will allow over 100,000 foot flight???What's the ceiling in FSX then?Rhett

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>>Whoa! Where did you hear that FSX will allow over 100,000>foot flight???>>What's the ceiling in FSX then?>>>RhettI don't know much higher but it does looks to be a lot higher than 100,000 ft. (High enough to actually see the curvature of the Earth.) Here's the video demonstrating the terrain engine in FSX by Adam Szofran in his presentation about the Global Terrain Technology for Flight Simulation. http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/d.../spaceshot2.wmvAdam's article can be found here:http://www.fsinsider.com/articles/Global_T..._Technology.htm

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>>I've added Flight Environment, Ground Environment and just>>recently VOZ, and they have added so much to the>environmental>>look of the sim. So now I wonder if FSX can be much better>>than what I have now. If Microsoft enhances the airports a>>lot and maybe does a lot with roads and traffic, then that's>>something to look forward to. Otherwise, I'm not expecting>>much of an improvement over what I now have. I hope I'm>>wrong. >>Let's see, even after your most cherished enhancements you>still won't get the following:>>1. 1 meter per pixel or greater ground detail>2. Self reflecting textures>3. Moving traffic>4. Dynamic worlds (Animals, Birds, Dolphins, Traffic)>5. 5.1 Surround Sound>6. Dark Blue sky at high altitude>7. Improved ATC>8. Reflective water>9. Enhanced weather systems>10. Completely redone Multi-Player system>11. Moving airport facilities>12. Self shadowing aircraft>13. Wet pavement>14. MAYBE you can get some feel of the New Mission based>system with something like FS Cargo.>15. All updated/new aircraft inventory>16. Light blooms>>That's just the bits and pieces here and there presented so>far as compared to what you can get with current FS9. If you>like what you have then it will be THAT MUCH BETTER with FSX!>>Carmine http://forums.avsim.net/images/wave.gif>http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7118/phoenixtp8mg.jpgMay I also add to the list:17. Little or NO Stutters / Better Performance.;-) Regards, Mark.

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It also appears that they have overhauled a lot under the hood with aircraft systems. the blog I saw (sorry I forget where) hints that it's more of a simulation now.The earth is mostly round now. Still some issues at teh poles, but that is geography. Even a 777 cannont directly overfly the poles! They need to offset by a few miles not in LNAV.

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>Let's see, even after your most cherished enhancements you>still won't get the following:>7. Improved ATCWhat about Radar Contact 4. It gives me enhanced ATC.>9. Enhanced weather systemsAS6 enhances the weather system.

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heck, this is almost word for word the kind of nonsense that was posted after the FS9 screenshots were released.Then too there was a rather vocal group shouting that FS9 was no better than FS2002 with some addons, that there were just a few small changes in the eyecandy and that it should be a free "fixpack" to FS2002...The non-visual changes can't be seen in a screenshot and of course there are more than enough people who will disbelieve anything a Microsoft person tells them (because we all know everyone working for Microsoft is by definition Evil © ® tm (p).

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>>Let's see, even after your most cherished enhancements you>>still won't get the following:>>>7. Improved ATC>>What about Radar Contact 4. It gives me enhanced ATC.>>>9. Enhanced weather systems>>AS6 enhances the weather system.>>I can possibly give you Radar Contact but not AS6 since it doesn't change the core of how the clouds are generated. Go to the spot view and look down on your aircraft during a broken or scattered sky condition and let me know how you feel about clouds rotating around your aircraft as you get close to them. Then once you notice this anomoly while sitting in the cockpit VC and looking out your window, you'll see a nice flat cloud float by. REALLY helps with the immersion! :-lolCarmine http://forums.avsim.net/images/wave.gifhttp://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7118/phoenixtp8mg.jpg

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Hi Carmine,Along those same lines we could ask how many times you have climbed outside a plane and looked down from above?!!!Remember that the rotating clouds are a graphics engine issue, not a weather engine issue!Hope this helps,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/Active Sky V6 Development TeamActive Sky V6 Proud SupporterHiFi Beta TeamRadar Contact Supporter

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>Remember that the rotating clouds are a graphics engine issue,>not a weather engine issue!It becomes a weather engine issue if it suddenly becomes possible to parachute from the aircraft in FSX! :(

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>Hi Carmine,>>Along those same lines we could ask how many times you have>climbed outside a plane and looked down from above?!!!>>Remember that the rotating clouds are a graphics engine issue,>not a weather engine issue!>>Hope this helps,>Jim>>http://www.hifisim.com/>Active Sky V6 Development Team>Active Sky V6 Proud Supporter>HiFi Beta Team>Radar Contact SupporterExactly Jim, it is FS programming not your addon software. That's why I said in the beginning about the things you CAN'T get right now even with all the precious addons! Only with new core engine programming.Take care for now!Carmine http://forums.avsim.net/images/wave.gifhttp://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7118/phoenixtp8mg.jpg

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I just wish I had enough money to buy a new system to be able to run fsx somewhat smoothly considering how fs9 runs ion my system, ive got no chance with fsx ah well maybe if i save up my cents one day when i grow big and strong ill be able to buy a new system lol but for now im not strong enough to convince my better half to invest in a new system

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FSX will blow FS9 out of the water, out of the box. And 12 months from now the first of the FSX 3rd party addons will make your jaw drop. Meantime, there's still a lot of fun to be had with FS9 in the next 9 months ....

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