May 28, 20197 yr Absolutely...not. Heck, even a Level-D sim isn't perfect. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
May 28, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, cdv0007 said: Is there a perfect helicopter in P3D 4.5HF1? No ... but watch out for the Dodosim Bell 206 maybe this year. Could be the one which is the nearest to perfect. Guenter Steiner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Betatester for: A2A, LORBY, FSR-Pillow Tester --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
May 28, 20197 yr Unfortunately X-Plane seems to have the best of what civilian helos have to offer for the moment. P3d users are not too lucky. I am hoping the Dodosim will bring the level up again just like it did during the FsX times. Edited May 28, 20197 yr by TopGun33 Guillaume YouTube Channel : The Flying Frog (P3D flying) My Flickr Gallery : clicky clicky CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D at 4.5 Ghz Motherboard: Gigabyte AORUS X470 Ultra Gaming RAM: 48 Gb GPU: 1x RTX 4090 OS : Win 11 Display : Philips BD4350UC (4K 43" display) + 1 AOC 21" FHD side displayHardware: Virpil WarBRD Base with WarBRD Grip OR Warthog Grip, VPC ACE Collection Rudder Pedals, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle, Goflight MCP Pro, Custom homecockpit.
May 28, 20197 yr Agree with TopGun33, if you're looking for realistic helicopter simulation, XP is the way to go. Or DCS World if you like military aviation. Hopefully, Dodosim will change that with their upcoming 206. --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
May 28, 20197 yr My previous speakers are correct but I would like to specify this topic a little bit more: Although P3D is not the best platform for helicopter simulations, there are certain publishers - beside Dodosim - who have done a pretty nice job, and their renditions of flying a heli come close to reality - at least they are a lot of fun making in P3D: Milviz MD-530F Milviz Bell 407 Cera AS365 N3 All the best, Konrad
May 29, 20197 yr I recently bought the Milviz MD-530F. I like it and it is a lot of fun and well done but compared to the Dodosim 206 for FSX I found it easier to fly (Not sure why). The 530F interior textures are starting to look a bit dated for my eyes.
May 29, 20197 yr Another one is the MP Design Aerospatiale Lama. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
May 29, 20197 yr For p3d helicopters, the cera offerings with HTR model rotorcraft dynamics quite well. R9-9950X3D 32G | RTX5090 | 3T m.2 | Win11 | vkb-gf ultimate & pedals | virpil cm3 throttle | tm boeing yoke | pimax super uw | DCS
May 29, 20197 yr Although a bit heavy on frame rates, if you've got the computer to do it, the fairly recent (i.e. last year) Nemeth Designs Mi-35 'Super Hind' is good fun in P3D with plenty of fancy avionics and switches to mess around with and it is of course just about the coolest looking helicopter there is too, which helps. Bit tricky to fly, but it is worth having. If on the other hand you want something light on frame rates which is easy to chuck around, Nemeth's good old Hughes MD 500 (which has been around since 2009) still looks good in spite of its age and works in P3D just fine, with great frame rates owing to its simplicity, which is an important consideration in P3D since it's not noted for having stellar frame rates when you turn all the graphics up, which you do kind of want to do when at low level in a chopper. But, if you want a total classic, the Milviz Bell 205 Iroquois 'Huey', is hard to beat, since it flies very well and unlike most Huey models for sims, it includes both the Charley and Delta model shapes. As others have noted, conspicuous by its absence in P3D, is DodoSim's Bell 206 JetRanger, which was and still is generally regarded as the best chopper you can get for FSX, which made it sadly missed by those who jumped to P3D, however, it was fairly recently revealed that DodoSim are now finalising a P3D version of it, so that's one to look out for, and hopefully fairly soon. Edited May 29, 20197 yr by Chock Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
May 29, 20197 yr 14 hours ago, Mace said: Another one is the MP Design Aerospatiale Lama. Oh wow, yes, you are correct Mace ! Your statement reminds me on a gorgeous heli for P3D we all have forgotten to mention: The MP DESIGN - AEROSPATIALE GAZELLE SA342 --> I mean this one can be really tricky to fly and it looks awesome. Especially if you are doing low level and looking out from VC ! During development MPDesign managed to develop: Stability Augmentation System Autopilot able to hold hover or forward flight Cyclic trim effect Doppler navigation system NADIR Blade flap sound effect Sling load operations supported I'm flying DCS's Gazelle too, but I must admit P3D/FSX's version is harder to control peculiar the hovering part close above ground. Cheers to all.
May 31, 20197 yr On 5/29/2019 at 3:40 AM, glider1 said: I recently bought the Milviz MD-530F. I like it and it is a lot of fun and well done but compared to the Dodosim 206 for FSX I found it easier to fly (Not sure why). The 530F interior textures are starting to look a bit dated for my eyes. It's easier to fly because it doesn't handle like a helicopter 😅 Joke aside, the problem lies within P3D, not so much the developer. --- MSFS | DCS | X-plane 12
June 1, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, NorwegianAviator said: It's easier to fly because it doesn't handle like a helicopter 😅 Joke aside, the problem lies within P3D, not so much the developer. Yeah that was what I was thinking too but P3D offers solutions developers aren't using. I'm starting to get tired with old models that are made compatible with P3Dv4 but are not really built for it. The SDK allows developers to build external flight models has for a long time. Instead some developers sit on their old models as long as they can probably because they can't afford the redevelopment costs.
June 1, 20197 yr for the n-th time, HTR from years ago offered external flight model of rotorcraft. it models AFCS and non-AFCS equipped helicopters very well provided good control HW is used. R9-9950X3D 32G | RTX5090 | 3T m.2 | Win11 | vkb-gf ultimate & pedals | virpil cm3 throttle | tm boeing yoke | pimax super uw | DCS
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