FSLabs ATSU questions

[737Andi 6]

Hello,

I have 2 questions regarding the new FSLabs ATSU menu.

1) What does "INTS" stand for in the Performance Request section?

2) I'm always getting the message "Fuel report missing". Does anyone know what I need to do in order to avoid this? I have ordered the fuel and the fuel was delivered accordingly.

Thanks!

Regards Andi

[G-YMML1 582]

8 minutes ago, 737Andi said:

Hello,

I have 2 questions regarding the new FSLabs ATSU menu.

1) What does "INTS" stand for in the Performance Request section?

2) I'm always getting the message "Fuel report missing". Does anyone know what I need to do in order to avoid this? I have ordered the fuel and the fuel was delivered accordingly.

Thanks!

Regards Andi

There is very-well written ATSU step-by-step manual that comes with the package. I'd suggest to read it first.

[RALF9636 1,902]

2 hours ago, 737Andi said:

Hello,

I have 2 questions regarding the new FSLabs ATSU menu.

1) What does "INTS" stand for in the Performance Request section?

2) I'm always getting the message "Fuel report missing". Does anyone know what I need to do in order to avoid this? I have ordered the fuel and the fuel was delivered accordingly.

Thanks!

Regards Andi

1) Intersection Takeoff

2) On the FUEL Page fill in VOLUME to match UPLINK and press FUEL REPORT SEND

 

... and read the manual 😉

Additionally I recommend this Blackbox711-video:

 

Edited August 2, 2019 by RALF9636

[RRVyper 34]

Just note that there is an error in the uplink calculation for the fuel report given in the ATSU manual. It should say to divide the mass by the density (0.8 kg/l) to get the volume uploaded (in litres).

Randy

Edit: The amount shown in the ATSU manual is wrong (volume) and has been corrected in the aircraft. So, disregard what I said above and multiply the volume (what you are given by the fuel tender) by the density (0.8 kg/l), to get the mass. 😀

Edited August 2, 2019 by RRVyper
Correction

[Nyxx 6,993]

It would be helpful if someone posted a walkthrough! 😉

If only!

Edited August 2, 2019 by Nyxx

[RRVyper 34]

David, see here.

I am thinking that the fuel report page is not right. Although I have never refueled or flown an A3xx, it would seem to me that you would receive the fuel qty in litres from the fuel tender, then calculate the mass to ensure it matches the expected final fuel on board. Am I missing something??

[RRVyper 34]

Apparently the manual is wrong but the aircraft is corrected. 😄

Post above corrected.

Edited August 2, 2019 by RRVyper
Updated info.

[cnc3 14]

56 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

It would be helpful if someone posted a walkthrough! 😉

If only!

Based on the video by Blackbox711 and my own experiences, I have created a checklist for ATSU only. It can be found here.

[RALF9636 1,902]

58 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

It would be helpful if someone posted a walkthrough! 😉

If only!

If only anybody would take a look at your signature.... 🙂

 

[Nyxx 6,993]

1 hour ago, RALF9636 said:

If only anybody would take a look at your signature.... 🙂

 

🙂 

[fluffyflops 1,845]

We had a new promoted skipper in Luton once at Easyjet. From memory I think they were doing a Luton- Faro. Eggw to lpfr

The flightplanning system Lido ran him a flightplan with zero payload (a system glitch) and then uploaded it as normal to the portal for the crew to print off downstairs in the crew room. 

Crew prints out the flightplan with zero payload (empty flight)  and then puts on completely the wrong amount of fuel (about 9 tonnes less) they take off from Luton then 30 mins later a rather embrassed skipper diverts to Bordeaux (lfbd) with low fuel and calls us in ops to many gasps of 'how the hell'.   And 'no bloody way'  

I believe they downranked him back Down to senior first officer after that. Poor bugger.  He took it on the chin and didnt try and throw the dispatcher under the bus  or claim fatigue, which most skippers would do

Halcyon days, I'm so glad I don't do short Haul ops any more 

Edited August 3, 2019 by fluffyflops

[fluffyflops 1,845]

11 hours ago, Nyxx said:

It would be helpful if someone posted a walkthrough! 😉

If only!

if you look at avsim on a mobile you cant see the sigs

[Nyxx 6,993]

59 minutes ago, fluffyflops said:

if you look at avsim on a mobile you cant see the sigs

True, but its even been deemed good enough to get a sticky in their General forum. You would hope people would read ask a question on FSL Forums just as much as here.

[RRVyper 34]

23 hours ago, Nyxx said:

It would be helpful if someone posted a walkthrough! 😉

If only!

It must have been late. 😄

[3d102 60]

On 8/3/2019 at 6:42 AM, fluffyflops said:

We had a new promoted skipper in Luton once at Easyjet. From memory I think they were doing a Luton- Faro. Eggw to lpfr

The flightplanning system Lido ran him a flightplan with zero payload (a system glitch) and then uploaded it as normal to the portal for the crew to print off downstairs in the crew room. 

Crew prints out the flightplan with zero payload (empty flight)  and then puts on completely the wrong amount of fuel (about 9 tonnes less) they take off from Luton then 30 mins later a rather embrassed skipper diverts to Bordeaux (lfbd) with low fuel and calls us in ops to many gasps of 'how the hell'.   And 'no bloody way'  

I believe they downranked him back Down to senior first officer after that. Poor bugger.  He took it on the chin and didnt try and throw the dispatcher under the bus  or claim fatigue, which most skippers would do

Halcyon days, I'm so glad I don't do short Haul ops any more 

This doesn't make sense to me. Not reviewing the OFP properly and missing the "ZERO PAYLOAD" in capital letters in the remarks section is tenuous but I could hypothetically imagine. But the correct ZFW would have been entered into the MCDU from the (correctly filled with xxx pax + cargo weight on it) loadsheet. The FMGC has a fuel planning facility where it works out the required block fuel taking into account the ZFW, the winds, the routing and the CNR, when you enter these figures it makes the calculations in the background. Unless this was years ago and there's been an FMGC upgrade since I don't know about the FMGC would word not allowed itself about insufficient block fuel with the EFOB figure being amber from the get go. No one could fail to notice that. 

Also, "about 9 tonnes less". UK-FAO even on a full 320 into a headwind and 5% contingency is roughly 9 tonnes plog fuel so in other words the accusation is he'd taken empty tanks.

This sounds like a bit of crewing embellishment to me. Saying that, it might have legs if it was actually a BCN or PMI or similar, something much shorter than a FAO.

Definitely interested in hearing more of your OCC dits though, feel free to PM!