7 hours ago, Chock said:

 

This incidentally, is a fun thing to do if you are ever at boring meetings and want to amuse yourself. Other things you can do is try throwing in intellectual sounding, but completely irrelevant latin phrases followed by the words 'as they say' into the conversation and watch as people too afraid to admit that they don't understand what you just said, will nod sagely at you. Solum potestis prohibere ignes silvarum, as they say.

 

Ego scio te non essent Smoky Urso!

My favorite latin question...

Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?

2 hours ago, scottb613 said:

- the new sim is already expected to be - the second coming - the be all end all -  the mother of all sims - deja vu anyone ? LOL - while we don't know very much - it's setting an impossible standard for MS to achieve and it's setting yourself up for disappointment...

Yep, I remember reading similar over-blown expectations and comments for FS95, FS98, FS2000, FS2002, FS2004, FSX, et alia...

IE..Msflight

Why do I think that MS simply picked up FSW and FSX from Dovetail, and now plans to use its vast resources to do with FSW what Dovetail could not do. After all, the reason why FSW failed is that they were trying to build too many new things without the necessary funding. This also justifies their total silence before E3. They were negotiating with Dovetail and could not say anything until the deal was sealed.

24 minutes ago, flyforever said:

Why do I think that MS simply picked up FSW and FSX from Dovetail, and now plans to use its vast resources to do with FSW what Dovetail could not do. After all, the reason why FSW failed is that they were trying to build too many new things without the necessary funding. This also justifies their total silence before E3. They were negotiating with Dovetail and could not say anything until the deal was sealed.

MS has said nothing about acquiring or maintaining FSW in any way with “vast” (or any) resources. FSW is dead.

Also no reason to believe there were protracted secret negotiations. More likely than not, this is the expiration of the licensing deal from 5 years (and 1 month) ago.

Justifying total silence before E3? You mean when we had no idea there was a new game in the works in the first place? Was anyone here expecting news before or at E3?

Edited August 9, 20196 yr by HurricaneKid93

10 hours ago, Woozie said:

Yeah, ask us! What could go wrong? I'm sure we can come up with an unanimously agreed list of requirements that REALLY NEED to be in a flightsim in no time! Those amateurs at MS really need some community expertise, have they ever done something aviation related?

 

This!

Whatever they do, its wrong. I'm not sure if we really deserve a next gen sim, the entitlement of this community is unbearable and some still spell MS with a dollar sign...a bit childish, isnt it?

I M$ust say I agree!! LOL!

I took the two mini updates as further evidence that MS is looking to re-establish a big footprint in the flight sim arena.

Some of the biggest complaints of MS Flight was that the flying area was too small, and that MS was getting away from the "sim" aspect, even making planes that only had a 3rd person chase view.

Now in 2019, MS announces a new "sim" and...

• releases a trailer that shows key spots from around the globe and cockpit views
• releases a detailed photo showing just how serious they are about that cockpit view
• confirms 3rd party access, SDK etc.
• reclaims the FSX title
• lays out further plans to release more info and kick-off the insider program 

I get the marketing strategy and hype angle (any company will do this); but there are some clear signs that MS is on the right track and listening to see where they can meet expectations.

 

 

 

 

51 minutes ago, flyforever said:

Why do I think that MS simply picked up FSW and FSX from Dovetail, and now plans to use its vast resources to do with FSW what Dovetail could not do. After all, the reason why FSW failed is that they were trying to build too many new things without the necessary funding.

It wasn't just lack of funding that killed FSW. Based on what they delivered, I don't think DTG had a good grasp of the code and how to get past the limitations.

They were able to convert it to 64-bit, but I remember still seeing artifacts like blurries and pop-in that they didn't seem able to fix. It's not enough to just convert the old FSX to 64-bits if you're not going to take advantage of the huge increase in memory address space, and solve some of the longtime problems.

For this reason, I think many of us are hoping that MS is going back to the drawing board and writing a new sim from scratch. Or at least using bits of code for things like ATC that are not part of the main flight model and scenery generation system. We'll see soon enough what path they're taking.

5 hours ago, Jim Young said:

I agree with the naysayers you quoted.  They release a very polished trailer and then talk about FSX and taking over fsx-se and then the  development of a new flight simulator.  The trailer is a hoax?? The community wants it released. Well at least I do. They can work on supporting fsx and taking over fsx-se somewhere else. 

Thank you Thank You Thank You!!

I am so happy to be old enough that I have other things better to do with my life like screaming at commercials on TV as well as raising my fist and yealing at the news. God it is so great to be free!! Now stay off my grass and don't come home until you get a job!! LOL!!

It is possible one of the third party developers onboard could be Liverpool studio TrueSky.

5 hours ago, Jim Young said:

I agree with the naysayers you quoted.  They release a very polished trailer and then talk about FSX and taking over fsx-se and then the  development of a new flight simulator.  The trailer is a hoax?? The community wants it released. Well at least I do. They can work on supporting fsx and taking over fsx-se somewhere else. 

Wat...

8 minutes ago, rjfry said:

It is possible one of the third party developers onboard could be Liverpool studio TrueSky.

You have to be more specific.....do you mean for FSX, FSX-se or the new flight simulator?

1 minute ago, shivers9 said:

You have to be more specific.....do you mean for FSX, FSX-se or the new flight simulator?

The weather program in the new Flight simulator.

3 minutes ago, rjfry said:

The weather program in the new Flight simulator.

I don't think anyone out in the wild really knows and if they do I am sure it would be covered by an NDA.

 

Just now, shivers9 said:

I don't think anyone out in the wild really knows and if they do I am sure it would be covered by an NDA.

 

I know that but in FSW although still being worked at the time I had some great results in FSW that I have not seen in any other sim since, fly through the cloud base and you are totally blind.