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New PC build for P3D. Need advice

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Hello guys,

I have a limited amount of knowledge in PC build so I'm planning to have my new PC built for me. As I'm not comfortable picking all my components from scratch I started to look at already built options. I have seen two builds that I believe would suit my needs for P3D, where my monitor is only 1080p. These are the following: 

Build #1:

  • Intel i5 9600K 4.6Ghz 6-Core
  • KFA2 GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER OC 8GB GDDR6
  • 16Gb (2x8Gb) Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3200Mhz CL16
  • MSI B360M BAZOOKA
  • Cooler Master Hyper 212 
  • Cooler Master MWE 600 80+ Bronze 600W
  • SSD SATA PNY CS900 240GB 2.5" 500mb-s
  • HDD Western Digital Blue 1Tb 64Mb Cache 7200RPM

Build #2:

 

  • Intel i7 9700K 4.9Ghz 8-Core with HT
  • KFA2 GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER OC 8GB GDDR6
  • 16Gb (2x8Gb) Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3200Mhz CL16
  • MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS
  • Cooler Master Hyper 212 
  • Cooler Master MWE 600 80+ Bronze 600W
  • SSD SATA PNY CS900 240GB 2.5" 500mb-s
  • lHDD Western Digital Blue 1Tb 64Mb Cache 7200RPM

Build #2 is around 200$ more expensive than #1. I would welcome any changes to both builds, even a completly new build with a price of around 1000$.

Thanks in advance for your help

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SSD is too small. You will fill that quickly. There isn't much of a price difference between that and a 1 Gb drive (which are now under $100).

Best of luck.


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Build #1 is an absolute no-go because the B360 chipset will not allow the CPU to be overclocked.

I am not a fan of the Hyper 212 cooler, either, especially on an 8-core CPU.  I'd want either a 240mm AIO water cooler like the Corsair H100/NZXT Kraken X52, or a better air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15S..

 

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Fantastic advice, Bob, once more,  as I installed an NZXT Kraken X52 AIO, on an i7-8086k CPU. So silent,and 24C.


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33 minutes ago, pgde said:

SSD is too small. You will fill that quickly. There isn't much of a price difference between that and a 1 Gb drive (which are now under $100).

Best of luck.

I'll have a look for that

10 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Build #1 is an absolute no-go because the B360 chipset will not allow the CPU to be overclocked.

I am not a fan of the Hyper 212 cooler, either, especially on an 8-core CPU.  I'd want either a 240mm AIO water cooler like the Corsair H100/NZXT Kraken X52, or a better air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15S..

 

Thanks, this is really useful. I would have picked Build #1 with no clue that it wouldn't allow overclocking. For #2 I'll also have a look for some better cooling. Otherwise, do you believe it is a good build or is it just some random components put together?

Once more, thank you for your help and quick replies. 

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1 minute ago, ablanc said:

I'll have a look for that

Thanks, this is really useful. I would have picked Build #1 with no clue that it wouldn't allow overclocking. For #2 I'll also have a look for some better cooling. Otherwise, do you believe it is a good build or is it just some random components put together?

Once more, thank you for your help and quick replies. 

It's a decent budget build.  The things I would change (budget permitting), in order, would be:

#1 - better CPU cooler as mentioned above

#2 - single 1TB SSD rather than separate SSD + HDD

#3 - 750W PSU

Also, there's no mention of the case to be used, or the monitor resolution.  You need a case with good airflow across the motherboard to keep the chipset and VRMs cool...nothing cosmic, but not a closed box with tight spaces and limited airflow.  The GPU you've selected should support an HD (1920x1080) monitor well, and up to a 2560x1440 monitor with some compromises.

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Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x NVME 2x SATA Samsung SSD, EVGA 1KW PSU, 1Gbps internet
SoundBlaster XFi Titanium, TOSLINK to Yamaha RX-V467 HT Rcvr, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf spkrs, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
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12 minutes ago, w6kd said:

It's a decent budget build.  The things I would change (budget permitting), in order, would be:

#1 - better CPU cooler as mentioned above

#2 - single 1TB SSD rather than separate SSD + HDD

#3 - 750W PSU

Also, there's no mention of the case to be used, or the monitor resolution.  You need a case with good airflow across the motherboard to keep the chipset and VRMs cool...nothing cosmic, but not a closed box with tight spaces and limited airflow.  The GPU you've selected should support an HD (1920x1080) monitor well, and up to a 2560x1440 monitor with some compromises.

Thanks. I'll try to change those 3 things you mention. Regarding the case, it comes with an Antec NX310 ARGB, that has some LED lighting that I don't really care about. Do you have any case in mind (as I said, I don't really care about lighting) or is it asking to much?

Finally, the monitor shouldn't be a problem since it is an HD (1920x1080) monitor.

Really appreciate the time you are taking to answer all these questions from a noob 🙂

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The NX310 looks a bit anemic in terms of ventilation. 

I use Coolermaster HAF-932 full tower cases with mesh front/top/side and a 230mm fan on the side cover.  Something with a fan on the side panel blowing over the motherboard would be ideal.  There are lots of choices in cases, and some of the better ones aren't any more expensive than some of the gimmicky disco-light and glass versions that look cool but aren't very...well...cool, thermally speaking.

 


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Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x NVME 2x SATA Samsung SSD, EVGA 1KW PSU, 1Gbps internet
SoundBlaster XFi Titanium, TOSLINK to Yamaha RX-V467 HT Rcvr, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf spkrs, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensors, Coolermaster HAF932 case, Stream Deck XL button box

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P3D v4.5  Toshiba 43" 4K TV

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Hi.  I know you're on a budget but for just $80 more you can get a GTX 2070 Super video card.  I paid $480 for mine with the rebate.  The 2060s are running around $400.

Unless you're planning on doing some heavy overclocking, a water cooler is unnecessary, as is a gigantic dual 140mm air cooler with 2 fans.  I'm using a Noctua 120mm with single fan on my i7 9700K, not overclocked as it already reaches 4.9GHz by itself, and temperatures are well within nominal values.  A well ventilated case is important and for that you need good front intake and rear exhaust fans.  Adding a top exhaust fan is also a good idea.

Lastly, you should go with a 512GB SSD for your flightsim drive.  240GB may be enough, but it's not much more for twice that so it might be worth the small extra expense.

By the way, the i7 9700K cpu does not use hyperthreading, which is a good thing for the sim.

Dave

 

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Thank you all. I believe I will go for the Corsair H100x CPU cooling as it isn't overly expensive. Also a Samsung 860 EVO SSD 500 Gb and a Fractal Design Meshify C case that I thinks has good cooling.

Until Monday I won't purchase it. If in the mean time you have more sugestions please let me know them. This threads has been really helpful and I appreciate all your input. 

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15 hours ago, dave2013 said:

......I'm using a Noctua 120mm with single fan on my i7 9700K, not overclocked as it already reaches 4.9GHz by itself, and temperatures are well within nominal values.....

The i7 9700k runs @ 4.9Ghz in Turbo mode? Wow, that is impressive. Definitely no need for overclocking! The i7 7700k that I have in my new PC build runs @ 4.5Ghz in Turbo mode, and that has a Noctua NH-U14S CPU cooler on top of it.


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8 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

The i7 9700k runs @ 4.9Ghz in Turbo mode? Wow, that is impressive. Definitely no need for overclocking! The i7 7700k that I have in my new PC build runs @ 4.5Ghz in Turbo mode, and that has a Noctua NH-U14S CPU cooler on top of it.

Not running P3D, it doesn't.  The turbo boost will only go to 4.9 when running single-core workloads...with anything over 4 cores in use (e.g. P3D) the max boost is 4.6GHz without overclocking intervention.

See the frequency chart here: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-9700k

Also, with all eight cores cooking (pun intended) the chip will definitely exceed its 95W TDP...a good cooling solution is needed to prevent thermal throttling.


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System: i9-10900K @ 5.2GHz on custom water loop, ASUS Maximus XII Hero, 32GB GSkill 3600MHz CAS15, EVGA RTX3090 XC3 Ultra
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3x NVME 2x SATA Samsung SSD, EVGA 1KW PSU, 1Gbps internet
SoundBlaster XFi Titanium, TOSLINK to Yamaha RX-V467 HT Rcvr, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf spkrs, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
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I just finished my new build and I LOVE IT! 

i9-9900K O/C 5.0 GHz | GeForce GTX 1080 TI | 32GB DDR 4 - 32000MHz | Sabrent 512GB M.2 & Sabrent 1TB M.2 | Kakren X62 Cpu Cooler | NZXT H510 Elite Case

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