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How to make liveries???

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Hi every one,

(This topic has come up because I have grown tired of requesting about liveries, so I am asked why I do not make them myself!)

So I have a question, What things do I need to paint airlines ???

I have Photoshop

I hope some one would help me, so I can make my own liveries

 

Best regards
Jammin16

Lol. That's a question I never dared to ask!

Will follow this one!😁

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30 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Lol. That's a question I never dared to ask!

Will follow this one!😁

What???😁

I need to know how I do it, if the painters not would help me!

3 hours ago, Jammin16 said:

Hi every one,

(This topic has come up because I have grown tired of requesting about liveries, so I am asked why I do not make them myself!)

So I have a question,   ???

I have Photoshop

I hope some one would help me, so I can make my own liveries

 

Best regards
Jammin16

From a person who's been painting planes for a long time....to answer your question...here are the only 3 "things" you need to paint airlines: I call them the "Three Ps" 

  1. Patience
  2. Perseverance
  3. Personal motivation 

Without these you'll only become frustrated with painting because as most of you know, it's not that easy to do well. 🙂 

Here is a list of the things you can't do:

  • You can't learn it in 5 minutes
  • You can't produce paints that you'd be proud to share in 10 mins
  • You can't rely on anyone to teach you

And here are the things you can do:

  • Engage the internet to your best advantage (a tip that you'll always get from everyone doing this...as you've already seen  2 previous posts give excellent resources to learn to paint)
  • Achieve small wins to keep you motivated and interested (see Three P # 3) i.e.  Try getting one texture map painted and loaded properly in flightsim. (there are 3 typically texture maps for painting aircraft fuselages, the nose, mid and tail).  I can't stress enough how motivated you'll get when you see your first paint (or part of a paint) in flightsim...no matter how bad it looks. Hehe.
  • Ask specific painting questions in the proper forums (this forum is NOT one of them) to engage the like-minded people in them for your best possible chance of relevant answers (i.e. from painters)

I noted in another forum you posted the same question and saw that you have paint.net, but didn't have Photoshop because it was too expensive.

Did you recently pick up Photoshop?  If so congrats as its the most popular and probably the best tool for painting, IMO.

Here is the one tip I can offer you since you have Photoshop...the DDS plugin.  Absolutely crucial for painting quickly and reliably without all the other addon's you'd typically need to convert a standard RGB file to the proper DDS format flightsim needs.

I won't tell you how to install and configure it in your version of Photoshop, instead....you guessed it...here is a link to that internet thingy that can tell you how to do it much better than I ever could.
https://www.google.com/search?q=photoshop+dds+plugin&oq=photoshop+dds+plugin&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.9167j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

You'll have to search from the list of all those websites that give detailed install instructions for the DDS plugin.  Once you have it installed properly you can just double-click on any DDS texture map in your aircraft folder and it will pop into Photoshop, ready to paint.  And when you're done painting, click save and it pops up a window with specific settings to save a DDS file.  That tip alone can launch you past all the "Imagetool, TIFF conversions, Mips on/off, flip on convert, DXTBMP, etc" nightmares that simply scare most folks away from painting. 🙂

I wish you good luck...I can tell you I was exactly where you are now....18 years ago. 😉  (and wanting to get into airline painting for the exact same reason)

 

Edited by Steve Dra

Regards,
Steve Dra
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Never in the field of airplane painting, have so many words been so true. 👍 Especially items 1 and 2

Edited by Ron Attwood

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8 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

Never in the field of airplane painting, have so many words been so true. 👍 Especially items 1 and 2

Hehe....yeah you and me have been doing this long enough to keep that mantra in our head when we're pulling the remaining hair out of it trying to align a compound curve over 3 texture maps...or simply trying to make sense of Carenado's texture layout methodology. 🙂 

Here are 3 additional tips that painter's live by:

  1. Before doing ANYTHING to a layer that you suspect will go south...create a duplicate layer of it and turn off the original layer...saved me more times than I care to imagine. 🙂
  2. CONTROL + Z (my personal best friend)
  3. Know how to control layers as effortlessly as a fish breathes underwater (I've tried it...not as easy as Nemo makes it look)   🙂 

Edited by Steve Dra

Regards,
Steve Dra
Get my paints for MSFS planes at flightsim.to here, and iFly 737s here
Download my FSX, P3D paints at Avsim by clicking here

9Slp0L.jpg 

19 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

Never in the field of airplane painting, have so many words been so true. 👍 Especially items 1 and 2

That from the master.....

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Hi every boudy,

Thank you very much for your repleis. I would look on it.

I would went back if I meeting problems.

Best Regards

Jammin16

47 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

Hehe....yeah you and me have been doing this long enough to keep that mantra in our head when we're pulling the remaining hair out of it trying to align a compound curve over 3 texture maps...or simply trying to make sense of Carenado's texture layout methodology. 🙂 

Here are 3 additional tips that painter's live by:

  1. Before doing ANYTHING to a layer that you suspect will go south...create a duplicate layer of it and turn off the original layer...saved me more times than I care to imagine. 🙂
  2. CONTROL + Z (my personal best friend)
  3. Know how to control layers as effortlessly as a fish breathes underwater (I've tried it...not as easy as Nemo makes it look)   🙂 

True this! especially CtrlZ and the layers.

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Working on MSFS 2024 versions.

59 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

Carenado's texture layout methodology.

Oh! they have a methodology? Now it starts to make sense. Carenado PC12: Tailfin and rudder are on texture two and the rudder trim is on....Yep, texture one 😀

The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA

11 minutes ago, Jammin16 said:

Hi every boudy,

Thank you very much for your repleis. I would look on it.

You might start by changing colors on an existing livery.  Then learn to change tail numbers, etc.  Many payware aircraft come with a blank texture.  i.e. all white, no colors, stripes or tail numbers.  You can learn to cut-and-paste blank sections from those over tail numbers of existing textures, then create your own tail numbers.  Here is an example of my Milviz Beech Baron where  I recolored some stripes, copied over and recolored a Beechcraft logo'd tail section, and created my own unique tail number.  There will be a learning curve to doing it, so as Steve and Ron said above, have patience and perseverance.  

Also, copy files you will work with to a totally separate location so that you do not mess up your current liveries.

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Frank Patton
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Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
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