January 27, 20206 yr 1 hour ago, Christopher Low said: I have just ordered an i5 7600k from CEX, so (hopefully) I will get the new PC up and running by the weekend. End of the long road on that search to Stage 1 at last, Christopher. Good Luck with the build. Rick Almeida
January 27, 20206 yr Author Getting the new CPU in will be the easy part!! I can't wait to finally get to that Windows 10 setup screen Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
January 29, 20206 yr Author Today is apparently delivery day for my new i5 7600k processor. If it is, then it gets installed tonight! Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
January 29, 20206 yr Author Can someone just clarify this for me........ The base clock frequency of the i5 7600k CPU is 3.8Ghz, but it has a turbo clock speed of 4.2Ghz. So my question is....does the clock speed automatically increase to 4.2Ghz under certain conditions, or is this just telling me that I could safely increase the multiplier from 38 to 42 with a default CPU cooler if I wanted to get to that 4.2Ghz? Edited January 29, 20206 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
January 29, 20206 yr 2 hours ago, Christopher Low said: Can someone just clarify this for me........ The base clock frequency of the i5 7600k CPU is 3.8Ghz, but it has a turbo clock speed of 4.2Ghz. So my question is....does the clock speed automatically increase to 4.2Ghz under certain conditions, or is this just telling me that I could safely increase the multiplier from 38 to 42 with a default CPU cooler if I wanted to get to that 4.2Ghz? Christopher, as you have an Asus motherboard like me, all you do is click the Ai icon in your taskbar, if you have installed all the mother Asus-only related stuff from your set-up disk, and in there you will see a tab TurboEVO( off the top of my head, think so), You should see the cores with their turbo clock speed ,or you can tick Group Tuning, and all cores should be set to 4.2GHz, which is what I do just before I go simming. Rick Almeida
January 29, 20206 yr I don't have an Asus motherboard but a Gigabyte one. Without any input from me, the motherboard/ i7 4970KCPU defaults to the Intel Turbo speed of 4.4 ghz when the workload calls for it. When it's doing nothing, it runs at 0.798 ghz. In between it runs at a variety of speeds. On that basis, I just leave it to it, though I am sure that the better educated in these matters would say that there is a better way, this seems simple and trouble free. I don't really understand or indeed want to understand multipliers, voltages and so on and would rather leave it to Gigabyte and Intel who surely do know what they are doing. Edited January 29, 20206 yr by Reader
January 30, 20206 yr Author You will be happy to know that my new PC is now online, and appears to be working fine. I have installed Windows 10, the latest Nvidia graphics drivers, Avast antivirus etc, and I will get the motherboard chipset drivers installed tonight before the main event (installation of Prepar3D v4 and all of my addons). After everything that has transpired, I am actually happy that I had to install a new CPU because it means that I completed the entire build myself. The i7 7700k CPU was already in the socket when the motherboard was given to me, so I couldn't previously claim to have done that part. To be fair, it was incredibly easy to do, but at least I got the chance to do it! Another bonus was that screwing the heatsink into place was a lot easier this time Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
January 30, 20206 yr 20 hours ago, Christopher Low said: Can someone just clarify this for me........ The base clock frequency of the i5 7600k CPU is 3.8Ghz, but it has a turbo clock speed of 4.2Ghz. So my question is....does the clock speed automatically increase to 4.2Ghz under certain conditions, or is this just telling me that I could safely increase the multiplier from 38 to 42 with a default CPU cooler if I wanted to get to that 4.2Ghz? Nothing required from you. You will get the max turbo speed if the circumstances permit. However... max turbo is on one core only and only if just one core is active. As other cores are utilised frequency drops. I'm working from memory here, but I recall the frequencies are... 4.2 MHz (1 core) 4.1 MHz (2 cores) 4.1 MHz (3 cores) 3.8 MHz (4 cores) Intel no longer publish the frequencies but its something like the above. If you want all cores to run at max Turbo frequency then you would need to switch on MCE (Multi Core Enhancement) the BIOS. Some Asus boards automatically switch on MCE as default. So watch for that. Edited January 30, 20206 yr by martin-w
January 30, 20206 yr Author I would like to be able to overclock the CPU, so any advice regarding a sensible procedure for doing this would be greatly appreciated. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
January 30, 20206 yr Give this a whirl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYlpHavSamQ P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
January 30, 20206 yr Chris -- I would wait a week or two before trying to overclock your system to make sure there aren't anymore hardware 'surprises'. Once you have run for a solid few days, then try it. I learned the hard way a number of years ago and caused myself a lot of frustration :) Gigabyte x670 Aorus Elite AX MB; AMD 7800X3D CPU; Deepcool LT520 AIO Cooler; 64 Gb G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 6000; Win11 Pro; P3D V5.4; 1 Samsung 990 2Tb NVMe SSD: 1 Crucial 4Tb MX500 SATA SSD; 1 Samsung 860 1Tb SSD; Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 1080ti 11Gb VRAM; Toshiba 43" LED TV @ 4k; Honeycomb Bravo.
January 31, 20206 yr Author Don't worry. I want to test the performance of P3D with the CPU set to the Turbo clock frequency first before attempting the overclock upgrade. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
January 31, 20206 yr Rest assured Christopher, the Turbo should do the job for you. At the end of the day, what is paramount? A smooth flight or a 100FPS infatuation but you still do not rocket through a flight? I am more than happy with my Turbo to 4.2Ghz as I get smooth flights. I don't sit there in front of my P3D minutely examining every FPS! Rick Almeida
January 31, 20206 yr 4 hours ago, Christopher Low said: Don't worry. I want to test the performance of P3D with the CPU set to the Turbo clock frequency first before attempting the overclock upgrade. Yep, good advice from the others. Plenty of testing and let some time pass by before overclocking. When and if you do overclock... and if you have Ai Suite for your MB, it has a feature called Five Way Optimisation. Now many that OC will tell you not to use motherboard overclocking tools, but 5WO is actually quiet good. It wont over volt or anything like that and will run stress tests just like you would with a manual overclock. I've always had quite good results from it, dependant on the platform. Overclocking for my current rig was manual, but as I say, 5WO is well worth a look. You can also use the OC it gives you as a starting point and tweak from there. For manual overclocking, there are a ton of guides on the internet. Ai Suite also has a very good fan control software called Fan Xpert. It's excellent for controlling fans. Edited January 31, 20206 yr by martin-w
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