ALPHA BUILD 1.2.5.0 is now available!

[threexgreen 3,139]

While I fully appreciate that they released the change log, I hope they didn't shoot themselves in the foot in some way by mentioning the 10-20 FPS issue. Perhaps this is a bit cynical but I can see people taking it the wrong way and spreading misinformation that "MSFS runs just as bad and even worse than P3D and even without addons" and "no computer will be able to run it".

Edited April 2, 2020 by threegreen

[Concodroid 84]

1 hour ago, Claviateur said:

The Open Beta phase should be more interesting than the Alpha....

I think a lot of people would be very frustrated to experience the unpolished version of MSFS and see (live) the issues that are mentioned for example in the dev log of this Alpha version...

I mean just from looking at screenshots sometimes many find this and that missing and it creates frustrations...

So immagine what expectation some would have when they get access and what reality will they meet in an Alpha...  

 

I really doubt that - we're accessing the sim for free, so most people accessing it are trying to improve it.

Personally, I really don't mind a lot of bugs. Sometimes, I go and try to create bugs/glitches to have a good laugh. It is frustrating, but laughing about it helps a lot.

37 minutes ago, threegreen said:

While I fully appreciate that they released the change log, I hope they didn't shoot themselves in the foot in some way by mentioning the 10-20 FPS issue. Perhaps this is a bit cynical but I can see people taking it the wrong way and spreading misinformation that "MSFS runs just as bad and even worse than P3D and even without addons" and "no computer will be able to run it".

 

I think the fact they mention FPS issues is really good this early in the dev stage, as it shows they're really listening to everyone taking part. All those rumors will die easily once people actually get a hold of the sim.

 

Edited April 2, 2020 by Concodroid

[simtom 495]

46 minutes ago, threegreen said:

I hope they didn't shoot themselves in the foot in some way by mentioning the 10-20 FPS issue

Like I said earlier, I can't really give any details due to the NDA, but rest assured that the performance is in another league than our current sims.

[threexgreen 3,139]

12 minutes ago, Concodroid said:

I think the fact they mention FPS issues is really good this early in the dev stage, as it shows they're really listening to everyone taking part. All those rumors will die easily once people actually get a hold of the sim.

I agree. But I think performance is kind of the one major concern of any flight simmer, so I hope people won't read too much into this.

[threexgreen 3,139]

Just now, simtom said:

Like I said earlier, I can't really give any details due to the NDA, but rest assured that the performance is in another league than our current sims.

I know. I mean, I don't really because I haven't been invited to the Alpha so far, but I know this is not much to worry about. I was thinking about how this might be taken the wrong way if misinterpreted.

[simtom 495]

Yeah, I understand. I just want to inform people (while not breaking said agreement) before some wild conspiracies are being spread.

[Axis3600 50]

28 minutes ago, simtom said:

Like I said earlier, I can't really give any details due to the NDA, but rest assured that the performance is in another league than our current sims.

It's reassuring because today it is impossible with the right settings to be able to fly over big cities like Paris, London, New York.

I hope that on FS20 we will be able to have quality and fluidity in big cities!

[Claviateur 789]

40 minutes ago, simtom said:

Yeah, I understand. I just want to inform people (while not breaking said agreement) before some wild conspiracies are being spread.

As far as I feel from how Asobo are working based on what they explain in their tech videos and with my daily experience with dev teams, MSFS (engine) seems to be very well thought in terms of performance.

So it's impossible they got to this level of complexity in the project while the global fps was low. Thus it is not a global fps issue but rather a particular scenario emerging from something newly added... 

Didn't they mention vegetation reacting to the wind? Or any other feature such as multiplayer or multiplayer vs AI vs any visual management on the ground of the complex airport... 

So again, I think the reported fps note is related to a specific scenario vs a new addition most probably...

As long as features are added, few things will need to be rethought in terms of bandwidth / mem / vram / CPU / etc.

Asobo seem very skilled in their dev strategies so I am not worried about performance at all...

Edited April 2, 2020 by Claviateur

[tommy10101 67]

Take my money!!!!!!!!!!!

[Greazer 1,320]

I have been an tester since Alpha 1.  I have not tried the latest Alpha Build, but reading the latest build notes it looks like a Milestone has been reached.  Things are shaping up very well.

Greazer.

[Amon1973 1,421]

2 hours ago, simtom said:

Like I said earlier, I can't really give any details due to the NDA, but rest assured that the performance is in another league than our current sims.

Good news..... and that's before any possible optimisation.🙏

[Baber20 1,438]

Does the Alpha support DLSS 2.0? If anyone wondering what it is, just google it real quick. Its an amazing tech !

[GlideBy 324]

3 hours ago, Concodroid said:

we're accessing the sim for free, so most people accessing it are trying to improve it.

I have seen a lot of posts of people that say they are bored and want to play with it.  There were so many posts like this that one forum banned the topic.

Personally I have made a list of things to test based on the pictures, videos, other flight sims, and real world stuff.  I wonder how many people have thought farther than just flying over things they know and airports they know.  

So I hope most people make a list of things to test, but I think many will just wing it.   😀

 

[Concodroid 84]

25 minutes ago, GlideBy said:

I have seen a lot of posts of people that say they are bored and want to play with it.  There were so many posts like this that one forum banned the topic.

Personally I have made a list of things to test based on the pictures, videos, other flight sims, and real world stuff.  I wonder how many people have thought farther than just flying over things they know and airports they know.  

So I hope most people make a list of things to test, but I think many will just wing it.   😀

 

I'm just gonna crash into my house at mach 3

[mp15 138]

• FPS tends to drop after the end of a loading sequence
• FPS tends to drops during intro cutscenes
• Low FPS (10 to 20 FPS) in big airports when on the tarmac, both on the take-off and landing
• There are possible FPS drops when moving the camera around the plane. "

FPS drops can easily be fixed if you allow frame blending in this situations.

Low FPS in big airports occur because you are probably abusing in verts counting and probably with many useless huge textures. You have to bake this big airports in .gIFT format, only one set of texture for each airport with a great UV work and you have to cure the geometries to compress vert count before baking and you will see how smooth FPS you will get in huge airports.

I'm available for this task just feel free to drop me a DM, I can fix 80 airports in 40 days.