Do simmers have an inferiority complex ?

[Dominique_K]

Theses days, the common wisdom in the sim community seems to be :

Lockheed-Martin is only really interested by the pro market, the simmers are just beta-testers for them. 

Microsoft is only really interested by the Xbox gamer market where the big numbers are, not the PC simmer market. 

Austin Meyer is only really interested in developing an aircraft design tool for the aircraft industry not a full fledge simulator with sceneries, weather and ATC for simmers. 

Do I see a pattern here 😇 ?

[Murmur]

LOL... Maybe you have a good point.

[jcomm]

Aerowinx PSX, the Best Ever 747-400 sim is primarily oriented at RW 744 pilots, with the out-of-windshield and weather visuals extremely simplified / too simplified to please simmers...

ELITE IFT is mainly oriented towards IFR training with less focus on World and Weather visuals, although it can be used with external visuals ( P3D )...

and the pattern continues...

That's probably the reason why guys like me, who started simming with full dedication around 1992, sometimes divert towards combat flight simulators ( ? ) 

That's probably why the only sims I have installed these days are DCS and IL2...

Indeed a good point Dominique !

 

[Richard McDonald Woods]

Hi Dominique!

It has occurred to me that LM might be readying a migration from the ESP base to MSFS2020. Migrating all the current aircraft models and sceneries to the new base would relieve LM from much of the maintenance of the current sim code and enable them to concentrate on the training roles. 🤣

[shivers9]

10 minutes ago, Richard McDonald Woods said:

Hi Dominique!

It has occurred to me that LM might be readying a migration from the ESP base to MSFS2020. Migrating all the current aircraft models and sceneries to the new base would relieve LM from much of the maintenance of the current sim code and enable them to concentrate on the training roles. 🤣

I tend to think that way myself. We call our hobby "Flight Simulator" however, more and more what we have going on over the past 10 years or so is really flying in what is becoming an "Earth Simulator". As I watch the effort and money that MS is throwing into this new simulator I more and more believe that MS is very interested in much more than getting "little Johnny's" money at Christmas time. Training with Simulators is a solid part of our future either here on Earth, on Mars or the moon. It is easy enough to see a future where MS, Boeing, LM, and many others will migrate towards using a common "Earth Simulator" to develope their training programs and ideas.

[Dominique_K]

Just now, Richard McDonald Woods said:

Hi Dominique!

It has occurred to me that LM might be readying a migration from the ESP base to MSFS2020. Migrating all the current aircraft models and sceneries to the new base would relieve LM from much of the maintenance of the current sim code and enable them to concentrate on the training roles. 🤣

Hello Richard! Hope all is well on your side.

Let's not be too harsh with LM. After all, they invented a great trick to boost the poor simmer's confidence. You pay three times the price and Shazam! you are a pro.

 

[Patco Lch]

28 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

Hello Richard! Hope all is well on your side.

Let's not be too harsh with LM. After all, they invented a great trick to boost the poor simmer's confidence. You pay three times the price and Shazam! you are a pro.

 

That's a good one. I believe most of us are ground bound pilot wannabes trying to live our fantasy hence our demand for more realistic scenery.

On the inferiority subject could that have something to do with the often hypersensitive back lash by so many toward differences in platform preference as well as other differences of opinion, experience or ideas on different sim subjects?

[Wobbie]

19 hours ago, Richard McDonald Woods said:

Hi Dominique!

It has occurred to me that LM might be readying a migration from the ESP base to MSFS2020. Migrating all the current aircraft models and sceneries to the new base would relieve LM from much of the maintenance of the current sim code and enable them to concentrate on the training roles. 🤣

Doubtful, the ESP base is a professional product, MSFS is for entertainment.. Never the twain shall meet..

Having said that.. Our Virtual club managed to get a professional sim from FRASCA. It is a 25 year old sim, & was one of three that was purchased & used by our local Air Force. It was also a procedural sim, with graphics driven by a 2nd PC. We've replaced the built-in PC with more modern hardware. Anyway, I'm sure that LM's client base are still happy with the functionality of pro products that they are using, & probably will not change to entertainment licenced games.

[birdguy]

Way back when I added a few hours towards my commercial I a FRASCA.

Noel