I fly in Wyoming and some major improvement is really needed. Huge chunks of farmlands (corn, alfalfa, etc...) are treated as desert sage and that's not helping immersion...Sim does otherwise OK on my medium (3.2,1,256) system, which is very much appreciated.

You sure its desert sage and not just very poorly-implemented autumnal grass? There seems to be a question mark over whether the fall grass texture may not be very good?But FS Genesis LC works with FSX. Allcott

Well... The texture is one thing, butter yellow really, but the attribution of land categories is another. Did you see any improvement with FSG LC?

I second Allcott's motion on FSGenesis.The FS Genesis landclass (originally for FS2004) works like a CHARM in FSX, and makes a HUGE difference in the product (at least in the USA). It's entirely possible that FS2004 default landclass (without FSG or Ultimate Terrain) was just as rough around the edges as FSX - but going from an enhanced FS2004 landclass to default FSX was a bigtime kick in the family jewels. I can't give a fair assessment simply because I was using FS Genesis landclass for years before the release of FSX.Bringing the enhanced landclass into FSX is a jewel-protecting move that is highly recommended. Heck - even if you DON'T own the FS Genesis landclass, this is a perfect time to buy it and you will have a much better flying experience in the United States...-Greg

Justin also has a beta freeware LC for the lower 48 states available on his site (dated 2003). Installing it to the normal scenery/base/scenery location didn't work but putting it in the addon/scenery location did. It has made flying in my home area much more realistic.Jim

I am not sure whether you will get the kind of improvement you are looking for or not. Here are two shots of Laramie-1 with the default and 2 with the fsgenesis landclass.If you have a particular place you'd like to see a side by side I'll try to post some shots for you with and without so you can judge.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

guys, just for the record. fsx landclass codes are not a perfect match for fs9 landclass codes. holger dixithaving said that, i have yet to find an obvious booboo

Any one fly long enough to see if the addon landclass file memory leak bug is fixed?scott s..

What I'm looking for is actually a better representation of the farmland in the area, including as in NM and AZ, the irrigation circles (there was an add-on a long time ago that did that, I think). Aside from that the color is completely off. It's really is brownish with pacthes of greenish and certainly not yellow like that! Guess I'll go for the beta LC and see...

yes fsgenesis lc for usa and hawaii works a treat after putting in addon folder and adding manually in scenery settings

I am not sure I can tell the difference. Hummmm...

I may be mistaken, but I believe Justin plans to update the landclass for FSX. I believe FSX has many more textures that can be taken advantage of. Of course, this will probably take awhile, so I don't know what his timetable for the update is.

I think the problem you are experiencing is due to the textures shipped with FSX and not purely a Landclass Problem. I have been trying to work on a Landclass file for British Columbia but the lack of a decent texture to replace what I think you are seeing is making the task a hard one. You can make a very small difference copying and renaming your spring textures to use as fall textures but the difference is hardly worth the effort.I am trying to work on replacement textures but there are 411 of them so don't hold your breathe. If I ever manage to complete them I will upload in batches maybe.By the way, yes you are looking at (I think) three textures, one of them is Semi Desert Sage.Andrew Brown

Thanks hope you can get them redone Andrew.I wonder if ACES did not tone down the color of the textures because a few people were saying it looks cartoonie so now we are stuck with this.Also anybody getting a green tintish look to some of the snow and ice textures?

Hi All:I have compared the results of the default FSX and FSG landclass (latest FS9 retail vesion), and regrettably in the areas I fly both in the sim and in the real world, the FSG version is inaccurate! (I really wish it wasn't!)If I recall corectly, Justin has taken some heat on this over the years, and periodically updates his file (seems to me that over the years he has thus far allocated little time to the landclass file compared to his mesh projects).Now in fairness to FSG, the base for the landclass is published sources just as the FSX default uses published data. But clearly the data sets are different, or the landclass texture tiles being called are different due to file naming changes, but regardless, in the areas of interest to me (sorry desert dwellers!), the default FSX landclass is more accurate. I expect more for a craftsman like Justin, and I actually prefer supporting the smaller business who one-ups the bigger budget business like Microsoft.The part that concerns me here I must say is that I also had this exact same problem in FS9 with "inaccurate to real world" land class in areas I know like the back of my hand. When Justin has been pressured on this in the past, he ultimately implemented changes which I believe were well recived by the FS community. Then he appeared to go back to hustling to be the first to make the latest mesh for somewhere in the world, and the landclass project appears to sit idle again until someone starts pressuring him more.Now granted, we can't blame Justin for another party's bad data any more than we can blame ACES for this (see Holger's discussion of this issue at): http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...59750&mode=fullAnd as Holger observes: "What to do? Well, the straightforward option is to use different (local) source data to provide better matches of the new textures with the real-world land cover."OK then, who is going to do this?Justin: I suppose mesh pays the bills based on volume sales, and we all apppreciate that you don't charge much for the lanclass file, but how's about you put some serious work into this and just plain start charging more for the custom tweaked landclass product to make it worth your time (and ours)?The mesh is a part of an "experientially complete FS breakfast", but try feeding us flight sim kids something that doesn't snap, crackle, pop, fizz, explode, have psychedelic colors and shapes in the morning and were gonna get tired of eating it and start throwing a hissy fit!We gotta' have sensationally realistic textures placed where they belong... in our scenery "bowl"!OK, so we shouldn't bust the chops of whoever is responsible for making our latest landclass since they are only the messengers, and would otherwise have to do the grunt work of chasing down local data sources which are harder to get access to online in some cases. But I gotta say, the midwestern US states have very accessible detailed landuse/landcover data between the various state websites to include BOTH the Geologic and the Forestry departments. I'd be willing to pay for this rather than having to do this myself with 3rd party FS utilities; I consider it essential to the "realism" achieved in my "virtual" FS world!I'm just not willing to accept WYSIWOW (What You See Is What Others Wrote) as an excuse in regards to FS any more. Make the landclass product worth both our whiles; then we'll buy it at a higher than "minimally improved" price, and the developer will get paid according to the quality and detail of the enhanced product!And while I'm on my soapbox, hows about someone checks the local data on airport coordinates and elevation (even the rumored 20-25,000 isn't that tough of a project for a sophisticated scripted search engine tool to get data into a logged database like AskSam for processing that gets distilled into a data file that FS can use in the future instead of shrugging and saying that the big aviation databases don't jive with the terain mesh DEMS due to local VFR yokels misreporting their actual locations so don't blame us for those troughs and plateaus you call airstrips... and deferring the matter to WYSIWOW! I haven't got the time or patience to do this, but I know it can be done, and would be willing to pay for a product that does this with greater accuracy!:-yellow1 Well, I hope this was of interest to at least someone; and hopefully someone will make a more accurate FS landclass add-in product that I can buy in the future that goes way beyond even what Ultimate Terrain tries to do for us with its landclass innovations.:-roll GaryGB