4 hours ago, Agrajag said:

What I miss is being able to pause to get the shot I want without time moving forward. I see the situation I want, hit pause, move the view around to just where I want it and take the screen shot. Now there's no way to do this. Why? In active pause the entire environment is no longer static so the moment can't be frozen as is. Total bummer for me.

Well, there is if you just change your keyboard assignment.

I have replaced my Pause key assignment from "Toggle Active Pause" to "Set Pause on" and have added the assignment "Set Pause off" to Shift-Pause. Now hitting Pause stops the whole environment, Shift-Pause lets me continue.

6 minutes ago, SimFx said:

Well, there is if you just change your keyboard assignment.

I have replaced my Pause key assignment from "Toggle Active Pause" to "Set Pause on" and have added the assignment "Set Pause off" to Shift-Pause. Now hitting Pause stops the whole environment, Shift-Pause lets me continue.

Whoa. That's ODD. I set mine so that hitting the Pause key toggles Pause, but that takes you to the menu so you can't see anything. What a strange difference.

4 minutes ago, Agrajag said:

Whoa. That's ODD. I set mine so that hitting the Pause key toggles Pause, but that takes you to the menu so you can't see anything. What a strange difference.

That happens because you assigned your Pause key to the "Toggle Pause" command. That way it acts exactly like the ESC key, which it should not.

You need to set it to "Set Pause On"

29 minutes ago, Pevenhull said:

If there is facility to pause, it's not a sim, it's a game

You're not understanding what a sim is used for in aviation then.

Active pause is invaluable in something like DCS single player where you have to set up multiple criteria before you fence in or start your attack.

Pause vs Active Pause...

1. I suppose it first of all allows 'Pause' to be used for what gamers often expect - going to a menu to adjust something - and MSFS is trying to appeal to a wider demographic than previous sims.

2. Also, it's handy for screenshots or if you want to perhaps record video whilst moving the camera around the aircraft without the aircraft going anywhere in the meantime.

3. Similar to what Slides said above, you may have a number of controls to change in a short time, which may take longer than in reality when using a mouse, or even keyboard, especially if you're not experienced enough to 'touch type' your controls.

6 hours ago, Pevenhull said:

If there is facility to pause, it's not a sim, it's a game.

FS2020 is a sim in some respects and a game in others, and I think that's exactly what most of its buyers want.  If you want a 100% real flight experience, you're gonna have to pony up and buy the actual airplane(s). 

Mine pauses actively every couple minutes,,,,grrrrrrr

7 hours ago, Pevenhull said:

If there is facility to pause, it's not a sim, it's a game.

This is a standard feature for most flight sims, even the professional ones. Aside from taking pretty pictures, it helps overcome the lack of dedicated physical controls.

7 hours ago, Pevenhull said:

You should be able to put your hand straight on what you want. 

And what if you don't have a physical knob, just a picture on a screen?

In a real plane or a full-featured home "SimPit" I could reach flight controls by touch and do it very quickly. It's fussier working with keyboard and mouse. Even HOTAS controls only help a little bit in the more complex aircraft. Sometimes 'ya gotta hit pause to dial a radio frequency or some other action. 

Pause also helps with familiarizing ourselves with a wide range of different aircraft until we get completely used to the controls. No real world pilot has to get type rated with as many different aircraft as we can fly in a simulator.

9 hours ago, Pevenhull said:

If there is facility to pause, it's not a sim, it's a game.

Hmmm, every Level-D simulator I’ve ever been in has a pause function. I guess they’re just a game too, not a sim.🤦‍♂️

Edited August 25, 20205 yr by norman_99

9 minutes ago, norman_99 said:

Hmmm, every Level-D simulator I’ve ever been in has a pause function. I guess they’re just a game too, not a sim.🤦‍♂️

This won't be popular with some, but Microsoft Flight Simulator was, is, and will likely always be, a game. Microsoft maintained it out of their game division. They placed it in game stores. It i sold under the Games category. It was always prevalent at the Game Developers Conference. The rest of the industry views it as a game as well, ranking it in sales in the games category. It is not generally ranked in sales against Office or in a "Simulations" category. It is generally regarded at the best selling GAME of all-time -- and there's nothing wrong with that. Yes, it's a very special game, but a game all the same.

On 8/24/2020 at 9:56 AM, Steve Dra said:

I've been finding all the houses I lived at throughout my life...its pretty incredible I completely agree

I've been doing that with Google Earth for years.........................

On 8/24/2020 at 10:08 AM, Chock said:

Is it me, or does Active Pause sound like a brand of dog food?

Or an anti-diarrhea medication.........

5 hours ago, Agrajag said:

This won't be popular with some, but Microsoft Flight Simulator was, is, and will likely always be, a game. Microsoft maintained it out of their game division. They placed it in game stores. It i sold under the Games category. It was always prevalent at the Game Developers Conference. The rest of the industry views it as a game as well, ranking it in sales in the games category. It is not generally ranked in sales against Office or in a "Simulations" category. It is generally regarded at the best selling GAME of all-time -- and there's nothing wrong with that. Yes, it's a very special game, but a game all the same.

I don't have a problem with your logic there, not trying to arguing that at all. But to state "if it has a pause function, it's not a sim" is just ridiculous, given every single $20M simulator has a pause function of it's own. They also have a function similar to the active pause being discussed. A function that is infinitely useful. 

5 hours ago, norman_99 said:

I don't have a problem with your logic there, not trying to arguing that at all. But to state "if it has a pause function, it's not a sim" is just ridiculous, given every single $20M simulator has a pause function of it's own. They also have a function similar to the active pause being discussed. A function that is infinitely useful. 

Norman, I think there's been a mix-up somewhere. I never said anything what-so-ever about a product not being a sim if it has a pause function. That's just ludicrous in my book. My only other comment on this topic was to raise some concerns about how Active Pause works and is impacting the current release. That's it.

On 8/25/2020 at 3:07 PM, Pevenhull said:

If there is facility to pause, it's not a sim, it's a game.

 

9 hours ago, Agrajag said:

Norman, I think there's been a mix-up somewhere. I never said anything what-so-ever about a product not being a sim if it has a pause function. That's just ludicrous in my book. My only other comment on this topic was to raise some concerns about how Active Pause works and is impacting the current release. That's it.

I think the quote above was what Norman_99 was meaning to refer to.