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Turn off the forced sharpening filter for a cleaner image.

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Thanks I will check it out.  Something I used to do in FS9 and have done it here is reduce gamma and increase contrast and brightness in NvCP.  What this does is reduce some of the visibility haze that can also soften images in the not to distant far ground, so the image and depth look cleaner and clearer but just a bit, but nicely so.


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2 hours ago, tangerine said:

Any advice on what presets to look for?

I settled on sharpening 25%. This gives me slight aliasing artifacts - but image is a bit too blurry without any sharpening. I left film grain at default 15%.

I’ve also tweaked some other Freestyle settings, much like I would edit a photo. I’ve increased vibrancy slightly, reduced highlights, added some contrast and increased shadows. 

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14 hours ago, Colonel X said:

Where did you find Film Grain?

Freestyle - sharpening - which has two options to tweak: a) sharpening and b) film grain


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57 minutes ago, flavik77 said:

Freestyle - sharpening - which has two options to tweak: a) sharpening and b) film grain

That is the ignore film grain option of the sharpening shader. It doesn't add any grain.

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9 minutes ago, Colonel X said:

That is the ignore film grain option of the sharpening shader. It doesn't add any grain.

Ok - seems somewhat irrelevant then if there’s little or no film grain present. I’ve left it unchanged for now anyway. 

Still unsure about the sharpening setting, I’ll try for a while with 50%.


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On 9/7/2020 at 12:45 PM, Colonel X said:

There should be no FPS increase here. Maybe if your GPU is at the end of it's rope, but usually the performance issues in MSFS are caused by the CPU.

Is that correct ? Detailed buildings around cities hits your GPU RAM surely.

Shadows too in DirectX 11 are offloaded to the GPU. In FSX it was all CPU. And more buildings or trees equals more shadows.....etc.

MSFS does benefit a lot more from a good GPU.

Check out the benchmarks on guru.net.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/microsoft_flight_simulator_(2020)_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,7.html

Clearly shows linear increase in FPS with better GPUs... the differencs being higher as the Rez increases.

At Ultra preset,  2080Ti vs FTX 1080, at 1080p is only 25 percent.

By 2K Rez, rises to 50 percent and 4K, it's 75.

Anyhow.... The numbers don't lie. Check it out.

 

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Well that looks good, from my 1070 to were a 3080 will come in, it looks like on 1080 I will go from 32 FPS to 60 FPS.


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19 minutes ago, Gabe777 said:
On 9/7/2020 at 9:45 PM, Colonel X said:

There should be no FPS increase here. Maybe if your GPU is at the end of it's rope, but usually the performance issues in MSFS are caused by the CPU.

Very surprised at the last phrase in the above statement - my i9-7900X is running at 4.9GHZ on all cores and is loafing at about 40% and the 1080Ti is at 100% usage 99% of the time (but no DXGI or CTD errors) runs smooth as silk live and I only get some slight hesitations when recording (with geforce). The only other issue I have had is scenery updating online and would really like to find out how rolling and manual cache screw up the experience ie when does it work correctly and how does one know? This imo is the biggest can of worms with the sim at the moment after 3 weeks of testing different profiles on my machine I have tried up to 500GB for each cache (2TB nvme) with awful results loading and flying online (going off topic sorry). The other 3 flight sims on my machine are better balanced for core - GPU loads imo but that is irrelevant if they all work and give you the results.

18 minutes ago, Gabe777 said:

MSFS does benefit a lot more from a good GPU.

spot on imo but also a fairly obvious conclusion for any graphics intensive software.


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16 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Well that looks good, from my 1070 to were a 3080 will come in, it looks like on 1080 I will go from 32 FPS to 60 FPS.

Absolutely or you will choose to crank all the settings off the dial and still get 30-40 fps. A better GPU and and system always gives you more options if the system was previously under load.


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2 minutes ago, Uteman said:

Absolutely or you will choose to crank all the settings off the dial and still get 30-40 fps. A better GPU and and system always gives you more options if the system was previously under load.

I would not change my setting, but looking forward to ordering a new PC 10900k @5 32GB ram 14CL and 3080. 2xM.2 Looking forward to having all that spare FPS hopefully.


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1 minute ago, Nyxx said:

I would not change my setting, but looking forward to ordering a new PC 10900k @5 32GB ram 14CL and 3080. 2xM.2 Looking forward to having all that spare FPS hopefully.

All the best with it - a lot of fun and enjoyment ahead. Though I think you are like a lot of us, enough is never enough once you are hooked. I went from a CRT to 1 HD LED screen to triple screens then to triple 2k screens and now a 4k + panel monitors I find is the best for me.

Grabbing the 3rd wire on the Nimitz with the Hornet is just the duck's guts as we say. I can wait till its perfect in VR and I'll make that move. Every new bit of sim software I buy makes me want to crank the satisfaction dial another notch. I am yet to find some spare FPS, it is all used - good luck (though I know what you mean).

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10 minutes ago, Uteman said:

All the best with it - a lot of fun and enjoyment ahead. Though I think you are like a lot of us, enough is never enough once you are hooked. I went from a CRT to 1 HD LED screen to triple screens then to triple 2k screens and now a 4k + panel monitors I find is the best for me.

Grabbing the 3rd wire on the Nimitz with the Hornet is just the duck's guts as we say. I can wait till its perfect in VR and I'll make that move. Every new bit of sim software I buy makes me want to crank the satisfaction dial another notch. I am yet to find some spare FPS, it is all used - good luck (though I know what you mean).

O man the Nimitz and DCS F-18 is like...well..you know 🙂 That's why I always find it funny people wanting an F16 or 18 in P3D etc. Its just a massive NO 🙂 you want an F-18? DCS=job done nothing comes even close. Air to air refueling...love that to. Slide in left, slide into refuel, side out on the right, huge grin on your face, go...You do need TrackIR for DCS imo or VR.

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