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Navigraph Charts? Worth It?

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17 minutes ago, haklis said:

Well said! I don't fly that much, but its perfect to have the charts app serving me the charts,  moving maps, highlighted route, sids and stars on enroute charts etc. on a silver plate. No fuzz - more time spent on flying!

Looking at the app now. Gonna take a while to figure this all out. Time for some videos.

Anyone know if they provide altitude (ascent/descent) data? It's the one thing that seems to be missing.

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I think its definitely worth the sub.  Would love to see VTC's introduced.

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4 hours ago, UAL4life said:

I didn’t think I’d need it after MSFS2020 released so I canceled my subscription. However NAVBLUE is not even a quarter of what Navigraph is. Needless to say I quickly resubscribed. 
 

their apps are bar none and now they are testing inserting the data directly into the sim updating airport frequencies and all makes it even better. 

Same here.

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Since I subscribe to data and charts, I installed into MSFS and it was so nice to see good taxi instructions.

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8 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

and it was so nice to see good taxi instructions.

david

are you saying "ATC" follows navigraph charts / data & not the scenery ??

for now, cheers

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4 hours ago, Agrajag said:

Looking at the app now. Gonna take a while to figure this all out. Time for some videos.

Anyone know if they provide altitude (ascent/descent) data? It's the one thing that seems to be missing.

They don’t. That’s why I mentioned after creating the route in navigraph I paste into simbrief along with aircraft type to get ascent/descent profiles, fuel, and cruise altitude. It would definitely be nice if they expanded to that, but it’s also a bit outside the scope of providing nav data 

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I think Navigraph is worth it. I like to fly online (Vatsim/IVAO) and do the division tours. When you fly to places you dont know and have ATC coverage, Navigraph helps a lot to search/find/follow procedures with moving map and overlay charts which is a great feature.
 
I also use X-Plane, FSX, and various aircraft that can be updated using the FMS utility, all of them for the same price. For $10 I can mantain up to date my sims and aircrafts... and soon I hope I will update FS2020

4 hours ago, Nyxx said:

Since I subscribe to data and charts, I installed into MSFS and it was so nice to see good taxi instructions.

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Does this change the default ATC ?

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16 hours ago, flyinion said:

The nice thing about using their app is you can visually see how the SIDS, STARS, and approaches all link up with your flight plan to help you see which is best to use vs just blindly using the routes that might be suggested by Simbrief. 

I mean I guess you’re “blindly” using routes in terms of not having drawn them out yourself, but the routes that SimBrief suggests are real life AIRAC-approved routes that the airlines fly.

I only self-plan routes when flying GA IFR stuff, because in reality dispatch hands the route directly to the pilots and all they have to do is verify it.

5 hours ago, Nyxx said:

Since I subscribe to data and charts, I installed into MSFS and it was so nice to see good taxi instructions.

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Wait... it gave you taxiway instructions based on the real life signage / naming conventions? So maybe it wouldn’t be so hard for Navigraph to globally update taxiway layouts...

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I didn't even think of the taxiway situation. I've had a number of strange taxiway instructions. 

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I run Navigraph on my ipad, while flying the sim on the computer - so similar experience to RL (and saves precious CPU/GPU resources for MSFS).  Navigraph is packed with features and makes IFR flying a breeze.  I fire up Navigraph first, and use real wethare and the SID/STAR/APP charts to plot my flight plan in the sim.  Great investment and I no longer fly without it.    

....and using Navigraph on the ipad, I don't have to deal with the framerate drops and studdering caused by popping out VFR map.  win-win.

1 hour ago, FlyingInACessna said:

I mean I guess you’re “blindly” using routes in terms of not having drawn them out yourself, but the routes that SimBrief suggests are real life AIRAC-approved routes that the airlines fly.

I only self-plan routes when flying GA IFR stuff, because in reality dispatch hands the route directly to the pilots and all they have to do is verify it.

True, I've been doing a lot of ~200nm trips in the TBM though so I've been using it heavily to plan my own routes.  I have in the past gone through Simbrief first though when I want to fly the A320 for example between two airports using a real world route as you mention 🙂

 

edit:  I also noticed many times if I was looking for overseas flights I find a flight on Flightaware but there's nothing listed under the route so I have to just go make it up in those cases as well.

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One minor thing that's starting to become an issue is that they don't use FSUIPC (which is generally fine) but instead use Simlink (or something similar) and it's now yet another item that has to be started before the sim. For the moment I now have three things I need to load before the sim. It just feels crowded (FSUIPC,  Self-Loading Cargo and now this--and soon vPilot will be added to the list).

I also have yet to be able to build a serious route like what I see in the videos. They link things together with the ease of Legos. "And just snap this piece to this piece given that they both connect at this piece". I try to do that and the pieces don't connect.

Then, as usual, there's the situation of not knowing what the arrival runway will be when I get there. I still don't get quite how that works in real life. How can I tell for sure what the wind will be like at an airport whose ATIS I can't get until I get there?

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