Sounds very promissing, but for us medium proficient simmers, can you explain what the RTM driver is and where do I get the Vista RC24?? I just loaded the latest ATI driver (have the 1900X), and a duo 6600processor, w? 2 gig, so have a fairly robust system, running FS9 at full right sliders, its great!! Have not recieved the FSX copies from the AVSIM show, but they say that it is soon to arrive, so will be in FSX land shortly and all this type of information is greatly appreciated from everyone.......one last item that would be helpful......in the forum, and now on many developer sites, reference is made regarding FSX and FS X, one is Microsoft and the other is a totally different program..........I don't know about others, but this is confusing to us senior simmers, wish there would be a name change or a identity tag so would be easier to figure out which I am going to purchase or download.......many thanks for the comments RRL

Well vista rc2 (release candidate) was available for download but i'm afraid you'll strugglr to find it now.RTM = release to manufacture (i think) ie virtually final/production release

What are you talking about!!?? You have an awesome system man!You are one of the "haves"!RhettAMD 3700+ (@2.5 ghz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (91.47), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8, WD 250 gig 7200 rpm SATA2, CoolerMaster Praetorian

really? I am surprised

Read this months Maximum PC magazine article on DX10 tech. It says that even DX9 titles will run better on DX10 cards. Don't ask me why, cause I didn't underestand the explanation.

OMG - you are so correct - I have a X1900XT, Conroe overclocked @ 3.3gig, and 2 gigs of RAM, and now trying FSX in Vista RC2 with the latest ATI driver for Vista, WOW ! It is such a difference over XP - genuinely. Not only am I now running 1600x1200 with AUTOGEN and Scenery on Normal, I'm getting decent pretty smooth frame-rates, whereas before it was a slideshow.It almost seems as if in XP it wasn't quite running fully graphics card hardware acceleration, as the planes seem to look a lot "cleaner" looking in Vista.I am very happy indeed :)Mark.

Lucky you guys who are having good framerates now.I am surprised that RC2 Vista is giving you better framarates as it was said that Vista would take around 15% framerates away.Todat at the Flightsim event in the Netherlands someone from Aces Studios told that Vista would give less fps then XP.However we did have several positive discoveries that this one could be one extra.

I'm not so sure its Vista - but a combo. of Vista and this new ATI driver. The game looks so much better that it genuinely looks and feels like a completely different game !I'd post some screenies, but FRAPs doesn't seem to like to run in Vista.Vista's not all that great though, for instance Gothic 3 game is a complete mess of textures when I try and play it !

I still think that in XP - there is something weird with the ATI drivers, as already mentionned in the thread.All the aircraft seemed to lack a crispness that they had in FS9 - I really think that its not completely hardware accelerated (graphics wise) - almost like its in a pseudo software emulation mode.I mentionned this with the demo a good while back.Could possibly explain the performance difference.Mark.

I agree. I have a laptop with an ati card-and it doesn't look at all as good as my computer with a nv card.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

there is something distinctly odd going on - the planes under Vista look very very different indeed ....far better ...will post screenshots later in the week when I can work out how to take them under Vista - will show XP vs VistaMark.

PRNT SCRN button, then paste it into an applicable paint program. Please tell me Vista didn't drop "Paint."From there you can resize it to whatever you want/need.

Oh come on, Vista has nothing to do with anything. Running Vista provides no increase in performance. Period. Obviously something else is going on.

exactly - yes - the graphics driver itself I imagine

Can i just add my 2p, i totally agree that its the fsx/graphics driver combo under xp causing some problems, so if vista costs frames, assuming the driver gets fixed in xp fsx should then work even better.