Sign in to follow this  
1mikel151

Microsoft Virtual Earth 3D Launched

Recommended Posts

Microsoft just launched their response to "Google Earth" and the results are nothing short of stunning. Major cities all feature 3D models of virtually all buildings and landmarks.Could this mean the end for autogen and the "hello" to true 3D buildings that are being pulled from a MS cluster? Certainly a thought that might be worth considering.http://local.live.comPat

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Help AVSIM continue to serve you!
Please donate today!

Its a preview of FS11...I think MS had this before google but google got theirs out earlier...just a guessBill

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Go figure MS makes you use IE for it, I'll pass.Regards, MichaelKDFW

Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe nForce4 SLI-x16 / AMD

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pat, you wrote:<< end for autogen and the "hello" to true 3D buildings that are being pulled from a MS cluster>>I'd guess the community would revolt if only objects in the sim were located at the short list of cities that are imaged here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>How original they are in their creativity. lolWell, Google didn't exactly think of it first either. They bought Google Earth from Key Hole.For MS to put it into a browser instead of stand alone application is a first.Matt

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>Would really be nice if they made it Firefox-compatible....>:(>From what I've heard, that is being worked on.Matt

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>Pat, you wrote:>>><< end for autogen and the "hello" to true 3D buildings that>are being pulled from a MS cluster>>>>I'd guess the community would revolt if only objects in the>sim were located at the short list of cities that are imaged>here. >>Well....they could do some cities in 3D detail and others with standard autogen. Kind of like they do now.If they have some technology that generates the 3D buildings more or less automatically, then could cover very large areas. Be interesting to see how their 3D coverage expands over the coming months.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would almost bet that this is what is going to happen in the future. Streaming satellite data with 3D objects where available and/or autogen where no data is available, plus alpha textures for seasonal changes and nighttime. It's an impressive start, but I think there's much more to come.Pat

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>Wrong.>>Google Maps does just that.>>JamesHow do you figure? Google maps is strictly 2D top-down view.MS VE is more comparable to Google Earth.Matt

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>>How do you figure? Google maps is strictly 2D top-down view.>In google you can click and hold down on the plus or minus buttons to tilt your view from the 2D top down to a 3D side view, which gives you a 3D view of mountains & hills. You can also rotate the view by dragging on the circle. You can also then place your mouse hand on the scenery and give it a small tug, and you will glide over the mountains at a constant speed.I updated my Google Earth in July with the beta, and it has a nice tool in the top right corner for doing this.regardsDavid

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>>>>How do you figure? Google maps is strictly 2D top-down>view.>>>>In google you can click and hold down on the plus or minus>buttons to tilt your view from the 2D top down to a 3D side>view, which gives you a 3D view of mountains & hills. You can>also rotate the view by dragging on the circle. You can also>then place your mouse hand on the scenery and give it a small>tug, and you will glide over the mountains at a constant>speed.>>I updated my Google Earth in July with the beta, and it has a>nice tool in the top right corner for doing this.>>regards>>DavidGoogle Earth and Google Maps are two completely separate applications. Goole Maps works in a web browser and is not 3D.The new MS Virtual Earth is 3D like Google Earth, but works inside a web browser.Matt

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well I hope this will look like this in FS11. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is a fantastic development.If anyone here has actually had a good look at Google Earth or MS Virtual Earth (rather than just saying "who was first"), then you will have realised the power of the 'layers' system that both programs use.There is already a wealth of editor programs for Google, and I am sure it won't be long that the same apps can be used with MSVE. Common high-end apps like 3DS, Autocad, Revit and Archicad can all output files to Google Earth. There are also some excellent free apps - perhaps the best being 'Sketchup' - which is now owned by Google but is still developed by @Last as a seperate app.The 'layer' concept is that a scenery developer creates a data layer that overlaps or replaces the default scenery. Recognise this? It's the same layering paradigm FS has been using for 10 years or more, though in reality it derives from high-end GIS software. A developer can package all their scenery in a layer, and then allow access to the data online!What this means is that in maybe 2 years or so, developers, both pay and free-ware, will be able to upload scenery data to central servers, and users simply pick the layers they want to see from an online list. Have a good look at Google Earth's layer system - you can simply click on a url-based link and have entire data layers show up! Data can range from static data like scenery, to active data like real-world flights (!), active volcanoes, live earthquake data for rescue scenerios; the possibilities are enormous, and I for one can't wait!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>>What this means is that in maybe 2 years or so, developers,>both pay and free-ware, will be able to upload scenery data to>central servers, and users simply pick the layers they want to>see from an online list. This could be done pretty easily right now with MSFS. All it would require is some kind of standard file distribution format and a willing website programmer.Matt

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Forget about Virtual Earth 3D ;-) Their data looks so much more impressive when used inside Microsoft's Flight Simulator X.This uses some software I wrote. 3D Buildings can't be loaded though - just the ground texture. And did I mention that everything streams from the Internet while you fly? This software is still under heavy development.Some screenshots here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/cbuchner1/set...57594513158518/The location is northwest of Friday Harbour (default flight) towards the mountains. I am sorry the pictures turned out to be a bit dark because I was flying at dusk. Make sure to click on the "all sizes" button to get the 1024x768 or 1920x1200 resolution!Also have a look at the other photo sets which show the same thing done with Google Earth. I'd love to demo this to Microsoft staff, actually ;)The main challenge with MSN Virtual Earth was that they apply black&white photographs from a USGS aerial survey at the higher zoom levels (just try zooming in all the way on local.live.com far from any major city). So I have to colorize this data using color information from lower resolution data. Flying over a gray landscape would be unacceptable. However the artificially colored landscape may sometimes appear a bit cartoonish, oversaturated. I am still working on that algorithm...Christian

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OK Christian...Ive seen your work before.very impressive.....so where do we stand on this....Jareth form Muskego Wisconsin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hope to get an invitation to Redmond for a demo... Overall I am still developing heavily on this. The loading performance is not quite satisfactory yet - blurries can occur quite often.This new photoset was just posted to demonstrate that it's not all about Google anymore.Things that I may consider to add in the near future is* faster loading speeds (preloading along the anticipated flightpath)* precise coastline detection* automatic placement of autogen houses and trees based on image analysisWould be cool to do this kind of work for ACES.Christian

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this