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cesna 172 and approaches

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I am making a flight from Sabadell (LELL)  to Seu D'Urgell (LESU)

Last waypoint is UPISA then the plane must start the approach (turn right), but in my case the plane combeback to LATRO turning left  instead of turning right to the approach

What is wrong at the flight plan? why the AP don't make the FP correctly?

 

thanks a lot 

 

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In small plane like C172 the biggest fun is to fly manually...

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i know but with fog and rainning day i have to use instrument navigation , what is wrong on the FP? anyone pls?

They messed it up last patch. It has trouble even capturing a localiser now. There may be a fix on the way.

In the real world, when training to obtain your IFR certificate, you fly through the fog and rain manually. Only when you know how to do it, you can offload part of the effort to the autopilots and Garmins. Try the manual flying first, mastering it is a very satisfying achievement.

Wished I could help, but I have no idea the thought process Asobo used in their Garmin implementation. Please don’t waste time trying to reconcile what it is doing in the sim to what is supposed to happen in real life. They bear no resemblance. 

Chris

Yes, annoying issue.  I go into the the flightplan and activate the next waypoint.  That usually works for the Caravan and the TBM.  Haven't flown IFR in the C172.

13 hours ago, motishow said:

what is wrong on the FP? anyone pls?

There has been an issue with the sim since it was first released. If you do not have one in your flight plan, you must insert a waypoint that will occur before the first waypoint of the approach you load.  You must also "activate" the approach before you reach that inserted waypoint.

You are using the G1000 version of the 172.  There is a mod that workingtitle has created that enhances the default G1000 and corrects some issues like this.  Have you tried using that mod?

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5 minutes ago, fppilot said:

There has been an issue with the sim since it was first released. If you do not have one in your flight plan, you must insert a waypoint that will occur before the first waypoint of the approach you load.  You must also "activate" the approach before you reach that inserted waypoint.

fppilot nails it, and also with the second part.  Our G1000 will add an artificial waypoint before the IAF to prevent this behavior.

28 minutes ago, kaosfere said:

Our G1000 will add an artificial waypoint before the IAF to prevent this behavior.

I wondered how you accomplished it!

Frank Patton
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16 hours ago, Steku said:

In small plane like C172 the biggest fun is to fly manually...

Even if you're flying manually the g1000 doesn't sequence things right.

Asobo will have to fix RNAV issues eventually.

(And yes I'm aware of the work around but it's not very useful for flying multiple approaches).

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This happens to me often. I'll try the Working title G1000 mod. What I do is to have always tuned the ILS frequency of the destination airport in one of the NAV radios. If the G1000 messes the approach, you can always just fly the ILS manually or , changing the active nav aid to the one where you have the ILS tuned, let the autopilot do it. This is more real than just setting the GPS and let it go, as well.

Some times, tuning manually the VORs and ILSs is a good way to learn how to have a backup for the modern flight management systems. You can use the AP this way, although it takes a little bit more of work.

If you need the frequencies, in this page you have the full up to date Spanish AIP: https://ais.enaire.es/AIP/AIPS/AMDT_335_2020_AIRAC_12_2020/AIP.htmlIn AD2, you have all the Spanish airports, with all their Approach and Visual charts.

In this link: https://insigniavfr.enaire.es you have an interactive VFR map that covers the whole of Spain. It is intended for real VFR pilots. You have to spend some time learning how to use it, but it is of great help if you are going to fly Spain VFR often. 

5 hours ago, IRLATC said:

This happens to me often. I'll try the Working title G1000 mod.

It is a great mod for a wide variety of reasons.  Keep in mind that even without the mod, this turnaround issue can be avoided by making sure there is one flight plan waypoint left before the first waypoint (IAF) of the approach, and activating the approach before reaching that one waypoint that is still left. 

If you plan a direct flight, i.e. airport to airport, you will need to insert a waypoint that would sequence in before the IAF of the approach.  Again, that is if you are not using the mod that has been mentioned here.

Frank Patton
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Thank you. I'll download the mod and try it.

 

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