Ive spend some time looking at IRL Photos etc and IMO the standard view point is well off from the VC standard view.

Here are two shots showing the eye height on the side window frame.

Here after some time are the setting I now have to imo get the view right.

The Standard/default view now looks like this.

I have only two custom view as I use TrackIR

Just looking straight out. My Default 95% of the time.

and the second custom view for ...well it speaks for itself.

You will be amazed how much better the views are, not that they are bad from default but its personly taste etc but IMO this is how it should be.

Enjoy!

 

 

Edited January 20, 20215 yr by Nyxx

Nice, I might give that a try.  In VR especially it becomes apparent when the views are off. 

This how I sat in Mooney (M20J). It's like sitting on the floor with the yoke on your chest with very limited forward vide that obscured by cowling . There is not much room to go up. I never had such a nice  view like in Beechcraft or Cessna. I don't know if R is much different.

2 hours ago, Nyxx said:

Ive spend some time looking at IRL Photos etc and IMO the standard view point is well off from the VC standard view.

Here are two shots showing the eye height on the side window frame.

Here after some time are the setting I now have to imo get the view right.

The Standard/default view now looks like this.

I have only two custom view as I use TrackIR

Just looking straight out. My Default 95% of the time.

and the second custom view for ...well it speaks for itself.

You will be amazed how much better the views are, not that they are bad from default but its personly taste etc but IMO this is how it should be.

Enjoy!

 

 

 

Great tip.  For me your late.  As a real world pilot I always reference real world or external view for pilot head height to give me a reference for what the VC eyepoint should be (unless I have time in the real type).  I too was amazed at what the Mooney offered over other GA aircraft concerning the forward view.  No wonder why their popular.

Edited January 20, 20215 yr by Dillon

It kinda depends how tall you are.

In real life there is a limit to how high a shorter pilot can sit (even with cushions) as eventually you are not going to reach the rudder pedals in many planes.

Cessnas are really bad for this to the extent that you can buy aftermarket rudder pedal extenders for the Cessnas.

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/cessna_pedalext_s_rpe_c.php

In the video below the pilot (who seems tallish) appears to have his eyes level with the bottom of the sun visor in this older m20J.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 20, 20215 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

2 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

It kinda depends how tall you are.

In real life there is a limit to how high you can sit (even with cushions) as eventually you are not going to reach the rudder pedals in many planes (Cessnas are really bad for this to the extent that you can buy aftermarket rudder pedal extenders for the Cessnas).

In the video below the pilot (who seems tallish) appears to have his eyes level with the bottom of the sun visor in this older m20J.

 

 

 

 

He may uses cushion.I know plenty of pilots that do.  I'm average height 5' 10'.  I can be judge of this video because wide angle "fish eye" lens usually give distorted picture of actual thing. I know for sure when I flew M20J I could see the whole cowling, but not like say in Beech Sierra when I felt I was sitting on top of airplane!

You can see consumer review agree with my opinion:

The small frontal area of the airplane means that the seating position is rather sports-car-like, with feet stretched out in front. This is in contrast to, say, a typical Cessna, which is more like sitting in a kitchen chair. There is definitely lots of legroom: Pilots shorter than 5 feet 9 or so may have to use a booster cushion to reach the pedals. For folks with bad backs, the Mooney can be an irritant and it’s not easy to ingress and egress gracefullyhttps://www.aviationconsumer.com/aircraftreviews/mooney-201-m20j/

Thanks for these settings. I Never knew they existed. I’ve just finished setting my sim pit up, and now thanks to this, have the perfect track IR setup! No more neck strain! 

I would like to see more posts with this type of view settings.

11 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

In the video below the pilot (who seems tallish) appears to have his eyes level with the bottom of the sun visor in this older m20J.

Just took these to see, the one with it looking full down (first one) is the sun visor in transit but imo it still just as you say.

Normal with it "down"

videos with wide angle lenes are of little use.

Anyway its simple, use the setting I showed above to set any views up to your own liking.