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Some of my landings into strong winds I have not been able to settle the aircraft on the ground. I usually land with full flaps, would it be ok to land without full flaps, would that get me onto the ground any easier ? .I land just under 140.Thanks

Reason for floating is that MS changed to flight dynamics with the WU3 update. This is a known issue. FBW and others are working on it to revert the ground effect

Phil Leaven

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1 minute ago, DAD said:

FBW and others are working on it to revert the ground effect

From the FBW Discord 15 hours ago:

"We have recently merged a fix in our development version that solves most of the flight model issues from the last MSFS update. Please update your development or experimental version to receive these fixes."

Did a couple of circuits earlier, the excessive floating seems to be gone (Dev version 3860b7)

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13 minutes ago, Malc said:

Some of my landings into strong winds I have not been able to settle the aircraft on the ground. I usually land with full flaps, would it be ok to land without full flaps, would that get me onto the ground any easier ? .I land just under 140.Thanks

In a strong headwind, real airbus A320's have been known to land with zero flaps ( and zero slats as well).    It is wrong to assume that in all conditions you need full flaps or slats for landing.

Config3 (as it is known) is a common landing setup which is flaps 20  slats 22.

Pilots will train in the simulator for ALL variations of flaps and slats at landing.

have a look at this site 🙂  https://eu.usatoday.com/story/travel/columnist/cox/2019/03/01/airplane-wing-flaps-slats/3011537002/

Graham

Edited by Moria15

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Both Full flaps and Flap 3 settings are approved for landing by EADS (the Airbus manufacturer), so it's up to you.

As some others have noted, the main factor for which setting you use is the weather, but other factors do come into it, notably the runway length required, the fuel costs and the levels of noise (you'll use more runway to land on a lower flap setting and, but you'll use a lot less fuel and you'll make much less noise). Some other environmental things can affect it, such as runway surface conditions and whether you can use thrust reversers/full brakes etc.

Weather-wise, full flaps can be a poor choice if the wind is gusty; the theory behind this is that in gusty conditions, if the headwind drops whilst you are coming in for a landing, you will take longer to accelerate up to a suitable flying speed with full flaps deployed because of the drag they create and the fact that it takes more engine power to overcome that drag, so more spool up time.

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1 hour ago, SierraDelta said:

From the FBW Discord 15 hours ago:

"We have recently merged a fix in our development version that solves most of the flight model issues from the last MSFS update. Please update your development or experimental version to receive these fixes."

Did a couple of circuits earlier, the excessive floating seems to be gone (Dev version 3860b7)

Nice and fast as usual. Currently enroute to ENVA, will check when landing whether I already got that updated dev mod prior to my takeoff, else I will download it asap.

Any idea where to find that discord? Just floating on their github page but cannot find said Information you posted above 

EDIT found their discord, yet another login...

Edited by DAD

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1 hour ago, Moria15 said:

In a strong headwind, real airbus A320's have been known to land with zero flaps ( and zero slats as well).    It is wrong to assume that in all conditions you need full flaps or slats for landing.

Config3 (as it is known) is a common landing setup which is flaps 20  slats 22.

Pilots will train in the simulator for ALL variations of flaps and slats at landing.

have a look at this site 🙂  https://eu.usatoday.com/story/travel/columnist/cox/2019/03/01/airplane-wing-flaps-slats/3011537002/

Graham

Thanks Graham.

I can confirm that the neo floating is gone, perfect landing at ENVA. Now next leg to EKCH...

Phil Leaven

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Just tried it as well with flaps full and the landing is fine on the Custom FBW version, almost feels too easy - I've no idea how tricky the real version is though.

As an aside if you've been seeing the "ENTER DEST DATA" prompt on the MCDU in recent versions of the FBW mod, here is the answer: MCDU | Approach Page Preflight - Enter Destination Data | Section 14.5.40 (a320dp.com).

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29 minutes ago, JSmith2112 said:

As an aside if you've been seeing the "ENTER DEST DATA" prompt on the MCDU in recent versions of the FBW mod, here is the answer: MCDU | Approach Page Preflight - Enter Destination Data | Section 14.5.40 (a320dp.com).

At which time you can use the ATSU, AOC menu to request the current weather, print it out, and make the appropriate entries. Fun stuff!

...jim

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FYI, I just downloaded (guess for the third or even forth time today) another FBW dev mod update prior to my last flight today,  LOWW to LOWI and - cautiously optimistic - seems the team fixed the AP issue I had before. No steep left turns, fast climb to FL240. Beautiful flight into the sunset.....  will report back after I landed....

Phil Leaven

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I have had 2 really good flights with it today, really pleased with it 😉

Steep descent but that was down to me as i missed TOD, looking forward to more flights now

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38 minutes ago, DAD said:

will report back after I landed....

all fine, perfect flight. seems like FBW made my day again.

Phil Leaven

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