April 16, 20215 yr I wanted to share this little story of what is possible with flying a sim that has actual satelite and aerial photography of the world. Recently I got into all kinds of interactive ways of exploring the history of WWI. I believe that was probably initiated by reading Stefan Zweig's memoires and how he testifies to how Europe was before 1914 and how it and the world changed after WW I. A much more interesting approach than learning raw historical facts like you do in school, which is always very dry and lacks a human perspective. So I looked at maps, played "1914-18 Verdun" and "Tannenberg" (and died hundreds of gruesome death in the trenches). Then I tried to find resources with a map overlay for the entire western front. The plan was to build a flightplan with Littlenavmap that follows the front from the sea to the Vosges mountains. I ended up using this map: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Front_(World_War_I)#/media/File:Western_front_1915-16.jpg and built the first leg to Reims, hopped into a plane and flew the whole plan by hand. Sometimes it was impossible to know whether I was on the right track but other times you can see stuff from the air that you wouldn't on the ground. The fields on the hills near the Somme Valley are littered with old scorch marks where trenches used to be and artillery shells exploded. A surreal experience. If you want to see that for yourselves without flying 90 minutes from Ostend to Prunay along the entire front just hop over to Bray (LFAQ) and take a look around. You can't miss it. What a titanic and bloody nightmare this must have been. And how the earth still carries scars from it after almost 110 years. Anyway, that is most certainly a fascinating way to use a sim. Looking for patterns in fields that point to long lost structures. Edited April 16, 20215 yr by Farlis
April 16, 20215 yr I love doing stuff like this, I recently did an easy one which was a flight along all of the Normandy beaches where troops landed on D-Day. Also paid a visit to the monument to Canadian soldiers at Vimy Ridge that was added in the latest update. Somewhere I’ve always wanted to visit in real life to pay my respects, but at least I’ve been there virtually now. Edited April 16, 20215 yr by regis9 Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
April 16, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Farlis said: What a titanic and bloody nightmare this must have been. Finish your flight at the Ossuary in Douaumont which contains the remains of 130 000 unidentified German and French soldiers who died in die Hölle von Verdun/l'Enfer de Verdun. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
April 16, 20215 yr Hi Farlis, Thanks for the map and the impetus for learning our history. From the archaeological side, I'd like to be able to, say, helicopter to Pompeii and then "walk" through the town. Carthage, Rome, Herculaneum, Athens, etc., are other examples. I think the broader possibilities exist with this MSFS technology. More recent history or current situations are also interesting. I love to fly, but I also like to explore. Jim Morgan
April 16, 20215 yr Author 1 hour ago, Dominique_K said: Finish your flight at the Ossuary in Douaumont which contains the remains of 130 000 unidentified German and French soldiers who died in die Hölle von Verdun/l'Enfer de Verdun. I will overfly it on my next leg which I'm about to start in 10 minutes. It be interesting to see how good the mesh is. I remember seeing drone footage of the fields in the vicinity that are littered with craters. Only now they are covered with green grass. Nature reclaims everything, but some marks remain eternal. The most pointless wars among the pointless wars. Edited April 16, 20215 yr by Farlis
April 16, 20215 yr Great idea! I wonder if the mine crater is there at Beaumont Hamel. I'll check it out...
April 16, 20215 yr The mesh is insane! I was surprised to see the Hawthorne minecrater is actually there under the trees! And it is huge! must have been some exploison... Edit: Sorry jarmstro, didn't mean to spoil the surprise Edited April 16, 20215 yr by DunRingill
April 16, 20215 yr And another thing that strikes me when looking from the air is how small some of the battlefields actually were. Just a few minutes in the air from La Boiselle to Bapuame...
April 16, 20215 yr 46 minutes ago, DunRingill said: The mesh is insane! I was surprised to see the Hawthorne minecrater is actually there under the trees! And it is huge! must have been some exploison... Edit: Sorry jarmstro, didn't mean to spoil the surprise Well no surprise because I found it😀 A pity it's covered in trees because it isn't. Now... is the Theipval memorial present... On the 1st July 1916 The British suffered 60,000 casualties of which nearly 20,000 died. For absolutely no result whatsoever. The lesson learnt? Repeat ad nauseum. Edited April 16, 20215 yr by jarmstro
April 16, 20215 yr Author 59 minutes ago, jarmstro said: A pity it's covered in trees because it isn't. Yes it is. Lochnagar crater isn't.
April 16, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, DunRingill said: And another thing that strikes me when looking from the air is how small some of the battlefields actually were. Just a few minutes in the air from La Boiselle to Bapuame... I sometimes go to Omaha Beach in Google Maps and situate at 2000 feet. It's amazing how much of the battlefield you can see from that height, practically the entire Normandy peninsula. Then to imagine hundreds of aircraft dropping parachutes, searchlights all over the sky, it must have been quite a sight.
April 16, 20215 yr 52 minutes ago, Farlis said: Yes it is. Lochnagar crater isn't. Ah yes. La Boisselle. The one you can walk round. Need to find it. I believe there's a couple of unexploded ones still underground which must be a bit of a worry! Edited April 16, 20215 yr by jarmstro
April 16, 20215 yr Author I did as Dominique suggested and flew over the Ossuary in Douaumont. Very nicely modeled. The onyl thing that was a tiny letdown is that the actual fort just east of it is not modeled. By the way can someone shed some light on the rectangular field right north to the fort? To my non military trained eyes it looks like an old artillery firing range where you can practice calibrating.
April 16, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, jarmstro said: Well no surprise because I found it😀 A pity it's covered in trees because it isn't. Now... is the Theipval memorial present... On the 1st July 1916 The British suffered 60,000 casualties of which nearly 20,000 died. For absolutely no result whatsoever. The lesson learnt? Repeat ad nauseum. There is a very good addon for the Thiepval Memorial and also Ulster Tower over at Flightsim.to: https://flightsim.to/file/5517/memorial-de-thiepval https://flightsim.to/file/5581/ulster-tower
April 16, 20215 yr 11 minutes ago, DunRingill said: There is a very good addon for the Thiepval Memorial and also Ulster Tower over at Flightsim.to: https://flightsim.to/file/5517/memorial-de-thiepval https://flightsim.to/file/5581/ulster-tower Thank you! (PS. I'm guessing you may be a Jethro Tull fan?) Edited April 16, 20215 yr by jarmstro
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