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After months of trying all the tricks and adjustments to get FSX to run acceptable to me, I am joining the ranks of those returning to FS9. My computer is mid to upper end (I'll spare the details because it's not relevent at this point). It runs FS9 with dozens of addon scenery/AI traffic/addon flyable planes like PMDG's 737/747's, level D's 767, with all settings maxed to the right with hardly a stutter. Frustration,frustration,frustration sums up FSX. I will continue to keep it on my HD, but after weighing the +++'s and the ---'s, FS9 is the way to go. After reading the other stories of simmers returning to FS9, I hope the developers, both freeware and payware continue to churn out addons for the many staying with FS9. For those who are able to run FSX acceptably to THEM, congratulations! For those of us who can't, I am looking forward to maybe a patch from MS, or bring on FS11(hopefully designed from scratch).Thanks for allowing me to blow off a little steam. Jim:-)

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Hello, I have not purchased it just waiting... But from what recon I have done and all the reading still seems to be quite a pest for alot of people. I have ton's and ton's of add-ons for FS9 probably close to the $600 bill range. One for example is ActiveSky and I was doing some reading on their site the other day on FSX and it seems to be giving them quite a workout. And I think these guy's are one of the 3rd party add-on folks that put the Q in quality. But who know's maybe it will work it's way through the weeds but from my observation it is moving quite slow. Until it is squawkbox ready and some really good add-ons come out I will stay in the holding pattern with FS9 myself. Happy Landings, Josh

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I think that the increased time it is taking 3rd party developers to adapt their products to FSX is simply the result of there being a greater difference between FS9 and FSX than there was between FS8 and FS9.

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>I think that the increased time it is taking 3rd party>developers to adapt their products to FSX is simply the result>of there being a greater difference between FS9 and FSX than>there was between FS8 and FS9. Correct. An arcade and buggy difference. Right now the problem is that i don't see fs10 getting anywhere, add ons and otherwise, for about 12-18 months while the userbase catches up with that nasa computer that seems to be out of stock at area 51. thus far the videos that i've seen (i got rid of my copy within a few weeks back in the day!) are abysmal. 4fps. that's it.. but hey, if you want to have the latest and greatest keep it.

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>Correct. An arcade and buggy difference. Right now the problem>is that i don't see fs10 getting anywhere, add ons and>otherwise, for about 12-18 months while the userbase catches>up with that nasa computer that seems to be out of stock at>area 51. I already have the Horizon Simulations UK photo-real scenery for FSX and as I speak I am downloading the new Hawaii Mega Scenery for FSX. The UK photo scenery is stunninmg and runs beautifully smoothly. I fully expect the Hawaii scenery to be as good.This illustrates one massive advantage FSX has over FS9. It is highly optimised for photo-real scenery at high resolution. The old UK VFR scenery for FS9 ran quite badly and was significantly worse than standard generic textures. In contrast, FSX seems to run photo scenery just as easily as generic. And, remember, this is at 1 meter per pixel which means it shows 16 times the detail.I regard FSX as being far, far better than FS9 (I deleted FS9 recently). On a good to medium computer I get very acceptable frame rates. In so many ways FSX is superior to FS9 (e.g. the new views system). I simply couldn't contemplate going back to FS9.Best regards, Chris

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I too hope that developers continue to support previous versions of FS :)FSX simply isn't up to speed on the average PC.

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I'm returning to FS9 too. The FS9 + Add-ons is much faster and as professional cockpits that work great and smooth with my trackIR 4. Now the fun is coming and the frustration is going away ...

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>I'm returning to FS9 too. >>The FS9 + Add-ons is much faster and as professional cockpits>that work great and smooth with my trackIR 4.>> >Now the fun is coming and the frustration is going away ...As they say, "it's to each their own". I'm in the group, than when flying high, airliner style, that I always want to be "lower". This is where FSX shines, with it's ability to depict a near 25 times better resolution than FS9. It even has the possibility of much more than that, if HD drives can handle the load!Just look at the FSX comparisons of MegaScenery Hawaii, GeoRender Yellowstone, and experimentation with Google Earth, compared to the much lower resolution pixels of FS9. We're getting closer to photo quality, that actually enhances the percieved look of three dimensions, instead of the look of flying over a photograph.With all these new areas coming on line to explore with FSX, I'd say that the "fun" is actually coming with FSX, and I'm suffering almost no frustration in the meantime. Certainly no more frustration than with any other flight sim.As it is now, I've installed FS9 & FSX, as well as X-Plane 8.50 on the new CPU, and have been gradually adding addons back to FS9, as well as have purchased a new one. However, I don't see myself going back to "just FS9" at all, as it's actually getting to be less as time goes on.IMO, for commercial type airliner flying, FS9 is still the way to go. For FSX, I prefer the Marchetti SF260, and will want something along the lines of the FS9 Dreamfleet Beech Baron, or perhaps the new RealAir twin when available. "Slow, but not that slow". :DL.Adamson

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Hi CWI think you are correct I am waiting for my pree orderd VFR to come.But it is also true,we are getting a lot of bugs in the programs that are already relesed,And I have been told to be patient,and as patience is not one of my better qualitys it is difficult,but I think they are right.If they had not relesed them I would be moaning that they were no addons,and as we have no afcad tool for FSX that makes it worse.But I am sure over the next few months If ACES and program makers make it a priority to correct bugs,most FSX deserters will be back.what I have started doing is haveing a giggle at some of the bugs in FSXlike the perfect little forrest growing on the sea ice in the Bering sea.It is a wonderfull Sim Just needs a few fixes like me.RegardsRex

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For many years, I've always figured that flight simming was a great way of recreating past experiences, something that we'd like to experience in the future, and a way to bring nostalgic aircraft or the eras of the past, back to life.So this morning, after a fine flight around the island of Oahu with MegaScenery Hawaii in FSX, I've now downloaded some excellent freeware P51 Mustangs for FS9, thanks to a thread in the screenshots forum. Just another reason to keep and enjoy both, as there are so many possibilities!L.Adamson

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> After months of trying all the tricks and adjustments to>get FSX to run acceptable to me, I am joining the ranks of>those returning to FS9. My computer is mid to upper end (I'll>spare the details because it's not relevent at this point). It>runs FS9 with dozens of addon scenery/AI traffic/addon flyable>planes like PMDG's 737/747's, level D's 767, with all settings>maxed to the right with hardly a stutter.>Frustration,frustration,frustration sums up FSX. I will>continue to keep it on my HD, but after weighing the +++'s and>the ---'s, FS9 is the way to go. After reading the other>stories of simmers returning to FS9, I hope the developers,>both freeware and payware continue to churn out addons for the>many staying with FS9. For those who are able to run FSX>acceptably to THEM, congratulations! For those of us who>can't, I am looking forward to maybe a patch from MS, or bring>on FS11(hopefully designed from scratch).>Thanks for allowing me to blow off a little steam.>> Jim:-) Just have to look at the sparse FSX freeware the last week and the overwhelmingly larger FS9 freeware and you can see that the people have spoken.

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These threads are tiresome. If you like FS9 (and I do) then use it. If you like FSX (and I do) then use it.Quit the public whining. Send emails to Microsoft and leave these boards for questions, suggestions and how to improve our simming.

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>>These threads are tiresome. If you like FS9 (and I do) then use it. If you like FSX (and I do) then use it.Quit the public whining. Send emails to Microsoft and leave these boards for questions, suggestions and how to improve our simming.<

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I really hoped this kind of post had ended. To each his own for some reason I have yet to post in the FS9 board how I'm going back to FS2002.:-)

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>>I really hoped this kind of post had ended. To each his own for some reason I have yet to post in the FS9 board how I'm going back to FS2002.<

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That is BRILLIANT!Terrific link!Foe me Fsx has worked fine on old 2.4 and is now awesome on new E6400.I will never go back, and deleted Fs9 within a week of getting FSX.AS6 is working fine with FSX free upgrade version.

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>These threads are tiresome. If you like FS9 (and I do) then>use it. If you like FSX (and I do) then use it.>>Quit the public whining. Send emails to Microsoft and leave>these boards for questions, suggestions and how to improve our>simming.I agree! I thought that kind of inflammatory posting had ended, too.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2310 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 2.5-3-3-8 (1T), WD 250 gig 7200 rpm SATA2, CoolerMaster Praetorian case

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"Just have to look at the sparse FSX freeware the last week and the overwhelmingly larger FS9 freeware and you can see that the people have spoken." The great proclaimer sez that The People Have Spoken.It's all I can do to try to keep my response to your post civilized. I will probably only be partially successful...FS9 has been out for three years. FS-X has been out for a month or two. Most people can do simple math to determine that FS9 has had a little bit more time to have add-ons developed for it than FS-X. ---On a more general note: anyone that has a substantial investment in addons for FS9 (like me), that tends or tended to fly with one or more of them turned on all the time (like me), is going to have issues with FS-X out of the box if they expect their large investment in FS9 addons to work perfectly and fully right out of the gate. I had no such expectations. SURE I would love it if all of my add-ons just ran beautificalistically right out of the box with FS-X, but in most cases that is just dreaming. There are products which I will be very very sorry to say goodbye to (e.g. the T-37 Tweet), but that's the reality of a base product (FS-X) that is the result of three to four years of additional development effort over its predecessor.I wonder why I'm even posting this, but comments that say "the people have spoken" are annoying because it *so* doesn't consider my (and many other happier enthusiasts') perspective.Dave Blevins

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>These threads are tiresome. If you like FS9 (and I do) then>use it. If you like FSX (and I do) then use it.>>Quit the public whining. Send emails to Microsoft and leave>these boards for questions, suggestions and how to improve our>simming.Agreed. Unfortunately, many still rely solely on what they read here as to whether to get it or not. Big mistake as as evidenced by this thread.Guess I'll start my own "I am flying FSX only and loving it" or even "forget FSX, I'm going back to Zoo Tycon" threads, LOL. Regards, MichaelKDFW

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I to thought the same thing about FSX i did not like it , until it made me go into my computer and tweak it , tune it up, get rid of alot of junk and hidden running software.What FSX is doing is making me injoy the default planes , which are far better than FS9 default planes to me anyway.Im much more aware of my system which is a modest 3800+, 7800gs vid,gigabye motherboard, 74 gig 10.000 raptor hd.even running at a 10 fps average i get good results, and that is with settings at average.What this tells me that when i upgrade i must have a balanced system, including a motherboard will be very important to getting top results.At this point FSX is a very good software.and those lite blooms i love very much, yes you will have to trade off, but pound for pound FSX is it, and if you do not want to invest in getting your com up to par than FSX is not for you.and that means working your system for everything its got , and with the help with folks out there that did just that helped me greatly.So my man i would hang in there because FSX is truly a great sim.Thanks........................Robert

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Sorry for expressing my point of view here. From now on, I will look for YOUR posts when I need to find MY point of view. Sorry to those bothered by this post. Jim:-)

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I have to agree with Robert. FSX was bought for me as a gift and that didn't leave much choice for upgrading unless I wanted to hurt the gift givers feelings. I had 3 megascenery add-ons for FS9 and a bunch of freeware add-ons. I was a bit hesitatant to leave it all.But when I did, wow! In fact, I purposely converted my old megascenery for use with FSX, tested it and in the end I like the DEFAULT FSX scenery better than megascenery for FS9! That's how good it is.Yes, I did upgrade my PC system in the end although FSX worked OK before I did. As Robert pointed out, it forced me to clean out my system and I added a 512K AGP video card (ATI) and upgraded to 2 gigs of DDR RAM.The key here for FS9 users seems to be the inability to set all the sliders on FSX to the right. What FS9 users don't realize is that FSX looks and feels better than FS9 at much lower settings (at least to me). The settings ARE NOT THE SAME. For example, autogen scenery in FSX on sparse is like autogen scenery in FS9 on high - I am not kidding here.IMHO, comparing FS9 and FSX is like comparing apples to oranges - there is no comparison. However, everyone should do as they like for it is supposed to be fun. Stay with FS9 or go to FSX, it's up to you as it should be. But don't knock something that you haven't even tried or have only read things about or don't like because you're PC can't hack it.Remeber, it's supposed to be fun!!

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