April 30, 20215 yr Moderator 4 hours ago, Scottoest said: UHD (aka 4K) is 400% of the pixels of 1080p, not 50% Agreed. Temporary malfunction of my brain struggling to overcome a bad cold. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 30, 20215 yr if anyone is feeling overtly generous, i would happily be a test pilot for years - & provide extensive reports & reviews - on a TV/Monitor like this with MFS:- https://www.lg.com/au/tvs/lg-oled48cxpta my 32" Dell UltraSharp/PremierColour UHD/4K monitor does not quite have the FOV i would like now with MFS - after being treated to the immersion of VR... & yes, i sit around 70-75cm from monitor, i'll 'eat my hat' if i cannot discern the difference on said tv/monitor with MFS - between 1080P, 1440P & 2160P resolutions at 75cm viewing distance, with my trusty Strix 2080Ti OC being fed by 9700K with 64 GB RAM & multi SSDs... a challenge for whomever! 😉
April 30, 20215 yr If you keep your seating distance, you would see the difference on reference level content or a test pattern, and possibly on the cockpit text as well, but you would be sitting pretty close for that size of display. I wouldn't take that bet at that viewing distance, but even though you may see a difference, it's going to be fairly slight for MSFS content, a lot more discernible with a test pattern. This stuff has been tested over and over again to ad nauseum, there are numerous articles on it and none diverge that much about viewing resolution and seating distance (there are slight disagreements, but nothing extraordinary). Has been studied at MIT, Berkley, Stanford, etc... The charts aren't wrong, they are just slightly off if you have really good vision and are playing certain types of content, but even though true the difference you would see is negligible (at least between 1440p and 4k). Most of us in here are older, so we'd be lucky to even hit what the charts say. Edited April 30, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
April 30, 20215 yr I only sit 450-480mm from my screen and from 1080 to 1440p is huge. 4K..no thank you. What a bigger screen?....sit closer.😜 Edited April 30, 20215 yr by Nyxx David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
April 30, 20215 yr Right 1080p to 1440p is a decent jump for some peoples seating distance, 1440p to 4k isn't much difference. Seeing a difference and there being a real difference you can notice constantly are two separate things though. Edited April 30, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
April 30, 20215 yr 18 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said: Seeing a difference and there being a real difference you can notice constantly are two separate things though. you just have to actually experience it, with my 64+ yo eyes, I absolutely can switch the 32” 4K monitor I use to different display resolutions & actually see the greater pixel density - far smoother image/video playback... my advice is - just be happy!
April 30, 20215 yr 17 minutes ago, craigeaglefire said: you just have to actually experience it, with my 64+ yo eyes, I absolutely can switch the 32” 4K monitor I use to different display resolutions & actually see the greater pixel density - far smoother image/video playback... my advice is - just be happy! It's all relative, I have tested it many times, just not with MSFS. That's what everyone says in every test ever administered before the test, that's why they call them double blind A/B tests. Anyhow, there are possible differences in scaling and what not and pixel spacing, but the tests are primarily looking at resolution because they generally tested people far back enough to where the pixel grid or spacing wasn't an issue, as well as the texture of the screen. I don't know about all that, just know there are certain rules you can go by. Edited April 30, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
April 30, 20215 yr 30 minutes ago, craigeaglefire said: you just have to actually experience it, with my 64+ yo eyes, I absolutely can switch the 32” 4K monitor I use to different display resolutions & actually see the greater pixel density - far smoother image/video playback... my advice is - just be happy! When you move away from the native resolution to another resolution, you are using a another scaler which introduces artifacts, and it doesn't look as good. Has nothing to do with the resolution of the panel.
April 30, 20215 yr & @Alpine Scenery, why would Apple Computer actually make this monitor? https://www.apple.com/au/pro-display-xdr/ 6K 32” - actual fact... maybe you should be telling Apple that they are wasting their time?
April 30, 20215 yr Yah, on some displays there are scaling issues, and some have fewer. Most modern displays don't have scaling artifacts anymore as long as you set them up a certain way, but I am sure some still do and I also know it doesn't take much in the way of bad settings to cause issues. It used to be a huge problem with projectors and TV's, but not as bad anymore. I don't know about monitors, just don't keep up with all this stuff, goes too fast and I have other worries. Edited April 30, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
April 30, 20215 yr & the naysayers can be happy that I am extremely happy with my native UHD/4K/2160P 32” UltraSharp monitor, actually looks fantastic with MFS @ native resolution!
April 30, 20215 yr My Profession means I look for faults in how something looks, after 40 years I skip over any bits that are perfect or good and naturally hunt for faults/mistakes and something thats just not good enough. I took my old monitor to work that I had not looked at for 2 months, I could not believe how bad it was to my new screen. But the first look told me how good it was over my old really good 1080. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
April 30, 20215 yr I never claimed to be an optimist, if a DR gave me an 85% chance of a full recovery, I might think that means I am going to die at least once a week. AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
April 30, 20215 yr 27 minutes ago, craigeaglefire said: & @Alpine Scenery, why would Apple Computer actually make this monitor? https://www.apple.com/au/pro-display-xdr/ 6K 32” - actual fact... maybe you should be telling Apple that they are wasting their time? Why did Apple make a keyboard where you have to separately knock out all the keys and screw them back in or pay them $300 at the Apple store for a new keyboard, and then a ribbon cable where if you are off on re-seating it by 0.1mm it breaks in half, I wonder... Why would they do such a thing, the great mystery. Edited April 30, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
April 30, 20215 yr & the best thing is I was given my 4K monitor as a freebie, as a reward for doing a whole heap of 4K/UHD/2160P video encoding, could not be happier!
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