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6 minutes ago, captain420 said:

Except that these same effects carries over to other seasons such as autumn, winter, and spring as well. This reminds of of X-Plane and all the terrible exaggeration of hazy skies everywhere.

I haven’t noticed it early / late in the day so I’m hoping they’ve accounted for that.


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Nice evening in New York City

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Bonnie Scotland

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Hope your eyes dont bleed from the downgraded visuals.

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There are still some times in the sim where I am gobsmacked at how realistic it looks. It's almost scary as it feels like I'm really flying and I for sure do not have a PPL IRL.


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9 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Is this what you want?VbDhPUS.png

Seriously?  Nope.  The original picture was full daylight with very, very few clouds far away on the horizon in FULL daylight sunshine.  Your picture is in a total overcast condition with no direct sunshine at all.  Plus, if you have ever sat in the pilot's seat of a real airplane, you would know that the POV in your picture shows the instrument panel from the perspective of someone being so far back from it their feet would never be able to reach the rudder pedals.  What your picture shows is a view from someone standing at least back by the cockpit door of the cockpit.  Get the POV up where a real pilot would be sitting. Then...

...pan the view down (or move the instrument panel up) so the instrument panel has to take up more of the screen (so you can see the whole PFD and MFD then), and add full sunshine with no clouds outside.

And get rid of the map overlay.

THEN do the comparison. 

And try it with a darker panel to begin with too, like the default Cesnna 150 or 172.  I mean really...those are the default aircraft that come with the sim to begin with that have much darker instrument panels.  They should be part of the comparison too.

I'm not totally knocking the sim.  But your comparison picture no way reflects the conditions where the outside washing out occurs.    

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9 hours ago, captain420 said:

Except that these same effects carries over to other seasons such as autumn, winter, and spring as well. This reminds of of X-Plane and all the terrible exaggeration of hazy skies everywhere.

X Plane looks like a hazy mess, and now MSFS has copied that look. Totally unrealistic unless you are flying in a smog filled city. 

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I like the skies, 2 enroute pics from KEYW to TNCM this morning, first with sunrise and some thunderstorm w/ lightning below

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Of course, FS looks great, is not that we suddenly got FSX. SU5 is still the best looking sim by a mile. But.The main point is that it looks worse since SU5. Is that such a hard thing to acknowledge?

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1 minute ago, Aristoteles said:

Of course, FS looks great, is not that we suddenly got FSX. SU5 is still best looking sim by a mile. But.The main point is that it looks worse since SU5. Is that such a hard thing to acknowledge?

For some, yes.  They will argue around in circles against all logic.  :rolleyes:

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10 hours ago, fppilot said:

Did you perform any other cleanup after using Windows uninstall to remove MSFS in prep for your fresh install?  Remnant folders/files? Registry entries?  Etc.?

I followed the Zendesk instructions provided here, 

https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016107019-How-to-repair-or-remove-and-do-a-clean-install-of-Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-on-Microsoft-Store

but only to the point of doing the Reset.

Also, I am now limiting frames to 30 and trying to keep the GPU usage below 70% or so. This gives me smooth performance with minimal stutters. One thing I have seen is that the NVIDIA overlay reports a significantly lower GPU usage than does Task Manager. I'm using the latter in establishing the settings, not the overlay.

I agree with those who suggest that the screen image now includes that same haze as has plagued XP. I always assumed that it was there to limit the visibility range and hence obviate the need to draw detail beyond 10-15 miles. While I also agree with those who suggest that may reflect real world conditions on many, if not most "clear" days, that's not always true. Sometimes CAVU can mean just that.

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Double post, sorry.

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59 minutes ago, jrw4 said:

Thank you.  That is exactly what I have been looking for.  I was not coming up with it.


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1 hour ago, Aristoteles said:

Of course, FS looks great, is not that we suddenly got FSX. SU5 is still the best looking sim by a mile. But.The main point is that it looks worse since SU5. Is that such a hard thing to acknowledge?

Is it such a hard thing to acknowledge that many disagree with you? I think SU5 has made lots of improvements to the brightness and glare of the sun and its interactions with clouds, the lights (particularly PAPI / runway which no longer look like simple glowballs, inland water which is much better now etc. etc.

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1 hour ago, jrw4 said:

I agree with those who suggest that the screen image now includes that same haze as has plagued XP.

Summer skies should usually be hazy. Looks good for me.


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24 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

Summer skies should usually be hazy

Key word is "usually", but this suggests "not always". How do we shut off the haze on severe clear days? We have one of these right now in New Hampshire, and I can see Mt. Washington around 30 miles away. What's the setting in the weather panel of MSFS to get to that?

Thanks.


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I change to the latest Nvidia driver (471.41) and I think the image quality is somewhat better in combination with Color Grading and Filmgrain = 0, I used 457.30 before.

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