Fenix A320 - new video

[VHOJT 177]

7 minutes ago, Krakin said:

If it ain't one thing it's another with you guys

Who's "you guys"??  Think you forgot to invite me to the fanboi club - but I'll check my emails in case I missed it.

32 minutes ago, VFXSimmer said:

You're misunderstanding the live weather function.  You are correct in that you cannot load historic weather (even a few hours earlier).  But you are not forced to use that time of day.  You CAN have the live weather as it exists in the moment but set the time to midday for example.

No sim currently has a real weather system with historic weather (and I'm not talking about active sky-like phasing between weather presets at metars either - i mean a worldwide weather system).  XP12 might when it comes out.  Lets hope so.

I don't think I'm misunderstanding it?  It means if you set daytime when it is night, you end up with night weather as it is live.  So you are stuck with whatever live weather there is, regardless of the time you set in the sim.  It means if I do a flight in Europe during the Australian day-time, at the moment I have sub-zero temperatures and fog at midday.  You can't plan a flight and do it a day later or anything like that.  Seems like a backward step from what we had.

Edited February 1, 2022 by VHOJT

[VFXSimmer 1,310]

15 minutes ago, VHOJT said:

I don't think I'm misunderstanding it?  It means if you set daytime when it is night, you end up with night weather as it is live.  So you are stuck with whatever live weather there is, regardless of the time you set in the sim.  It means if I do a flight in Europe during the Australian day-time, at the moment I have sub-zero temperatures and fog at midday.  You can't plan a flight and do it a day later or anything like that.  Seems like a backward step from what we had.

I guess everyone's different.  I'd consider it going backwards to go back to a system that just blends between weather systems based on the closest Metar reading like Active Sky.  No amount of smoothing helps the transition feel believable and it takes you right out of the immersion ... and YES, I am putting the current 'Metar' patch of MSFS into that camp . Even it's clunky right now, but I do understand how that helps the Vatsim'rs needs so I willing to give Asbobo the space to get it right.  Everything's a tradeoff.  Blowing immersion trumps the limitation of getting weather from 'x' amount of time in the past for me.  Dont get me wrong, it would be a welcome feature, but not having it isnt a deal breaker IMO.

I still see the current implementation of live weather as a step forward from what you get in the legacy sims, even warts and all.  Nothing beats seeing a storm front on the distant horizon and watching it develop as you near and then pass through it.

Edited February 1, 2022 by VFXSimmer

[Amon1973 1,421]

15 minutes ago, VHOJT said:

Who's "you guys"??  Think you forgot to invite me to the fanboi club - but I'll check my emails in case I missed it.

I don't think I'm misunderstanding it?  It means if you set daytime when it is night, you end up with night weather as it is live.  So you are stuck with whatever live weather there is, regardless of the time you set in the sim.  It means if I do a flight in Europe during the Australian day-time, at the moment I have sub-zero temperatures and fog at midday.  You can't plan a flight and do it a day later or anything like that.  Seems like a backward step from what we had.

Then why don't you just set the weather to any condition you want? Weather can be changed to whatever conditions you want, or does that not suit your agenda?

[WestAir 2,522]

1 hour ago, VHOJT said:

I am earnestly interested in how everyone is so excited to fly any airliner in MSFS without the ability to even set the weather back a few hours or half a day?

We can be excited for one thing while being disappointed in another. These feelings aren't mutually exclusive.

For example, I'm eager to see ASOBO's weather overhaul and I'm disappointed that there's no release date set for it.

Edited February 1, 2022 by WestAir

[Maxis 1,865]

1 hour ago, VHOJT said:

I am earnestly interested in how everyone is so excited to fly any airliner in MSFS without the ability to even set the weather back a few hours or half a day?  You want to do a day flight after work so you can see your lovely bird?  Well you're stuck with night-time weather?

Never ever bothered me in the least .. sorry and i fly airliners 98% of the time. If i want to fly in the day i set the time accordingly. The weather aspect i usually keep live. If i want something else i can set it myself. 

[Konterhalbe 295]

1 hour ago, VHOJT said:

I am earnestly interested in how everyone is so excited to fly any airliner in MSFS without the ability to even set the weather back a few hours or half a day?  You want to do a day flight after work so you can see your lovely bird?  Well you're stuck with night-time weather?

 

Well, don't worry, it's often foggy during daytime too here in EU.

[enright 496]

Wow - this is so close to real it has an actual eerie quality to it. It's amazing how sound plays such a key role in "selling" an environment. The attention to detail here is incredible.

[VHOJT 177]

1 hour ago, eaim1973 said:

Then why don't you just set the weather to any condition you want? Weather can be changed to whatever conditions you want, or does that not suit your agenda?

Can you imagine the complexity of setting an accurate weather system for a ten hour flight between Frankfurt and Tokyo?  Obviously not possible. 

What do you mean agenda??

56 minutes ago, Konterhalbe said:

 

Well, don't worry, it's often foggy during daytime too here in EU.

Haha well I like to give you the benefit of the doubt at least...it's sunny sometimes 😛

 

Don't get me wrong - I would love to start using MSFS with airliners like this.  Just being stuck with live weather/not being able to revisit that day again is not what I'm used to from P3D - I consider it an essential feature.

 

 

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,798]

Avsim is always interesting.

 

A thread with a title suggesting it is talking about an A320 is actually about live weather 😄

 

[VHOJT 177]

1 hour ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Avsim is always interesting.

 

A thread with a title suggesting it is talking about an A320 is actually about live weather 😄

 

Yeah sorry about that - my fault for thread drift there.  The plane does seem like it should be good 🙂  Love a good A320

[EvidencePlz 276]

4 hours ago, VHOJT said:

I am earnestly interested in how everyone is so excited to fly any airliner in MSFS without the ability to even set the weather back a few hours or half a day?  You want to do a day flight after work so you can see your lovely bird?  Well you're stuck with night-time weather?

hmm...well if in real life I'm unable to customize the weather and/or set the live weather time back or forward then I personally have no objection to MSFS not having historical weather.

[VHOJT 177]

Just now, EvidencePlz said:

hmm...well if in real life I'm unable to customize the weather and/or set the live weather time back or forward then I personally have no objection to MSFS not having historical weather.

Well in real life many of us are not allowed to fly A320s either, so I'm not sure if I buy that line of reasoning.

[EvidencePlz 276]

2 minutes ago, VHOJT said:

in real life many of us are not allowed to fly A320s either

not true. If in real life you do want to fly a A320 then nobody, I repeat, nobody, is stopping you from working and studying to acquire the qualifications, certificates and experience required to fly it. 

What you can't do in real life though, is to be able to set the real world time backward or forward. 

[VHOJT 177]

1 minute ago, EvidencePlz said:

not true. If in real life you do want to fly a A320 then nobody, I repeat, nobody, is stopping you from working and studying to acquire the qualifications, certificates and experience required to fly it. 

What you can't do in real life though, is to be able to set the real world time backward or forward. 

 You're being deliberately obtuse

[Krakin 5,773]

1 hour ago, VHOJT said:

 You're being deliberately obtuse

And you're being difficult for no good reason. You could have said historical weather would have been the cherry on top of the cake but you questioned the validity of people's excitement for what is shaping up to be the most indepth module ever made for a sim. That's just weird, man.