February 28, 20224 yr Before you can go snip[e hunting you should send someone to the engineering shop to prepare a long weight. Harry Woodrow
February 28, 20224 yr Administrators 7 minutes ago, martin-w said: You Americans are strange. 🥴 Yeah, but, at least, we don't eat "Spotted Dick"! 🤔😳 Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
February 28, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, charliearon said: Yeah, but, at least, we don't eat "Spotted Dick"! 🤔😳 That is very true, but if it is indeed very tasty, then its not strange to consume such a pleasurable comestible.
February 28, 20224 yr Author You need four ingredients for a good old American snipe hunt. A group of guys who've been snipe hunting before. An unsuspecting victim who doesn't know what a snipe hunt is. A gunnysack and a flashlight. The unsuspecting greenhorn is positioned at the far end of a meadow or field. He is told to hold open the gunnysack and shine the flashlight inside. The rest of the guys tell him to be very quite while they go out and rustle up the snipes that will, theoretically, see the light and run into the gunnysack. Then depending on where the snipe hunt is taking place retreat they retreat back to camp, the barracks (in the case of Marine Corps snipe hunts) or back to town. After an hour or two or three the perpetrators go back out to the field and have a good laugh while rescuing the unwitting dupe who is duly embarrassed and will thereafter be a party to snipe hunts but never again the victim. And yes, when I was a young lad I was the one holding the gunnysack and flashlight. Very few will ever admit to being the dupe. It's a good old rural American custom but gauging the feedback here few seem to know what it was. I suspect it might not be practiced anymore. But now you boys who have learned what it is go out and have yourselves some fun. BTW I prefer pheasant, quail, prairie chicken and duck and geese in that order. And Martin, have you never eaten chicken or a Christmas goose? Noel Edited February 28, 20224 yr by birdguy The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
February 28, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, birdguy said: And Martin, have you never eaten chicken or a Christmas goose? Yes but I didn't kill it, and if I had to I wouldn't get pleasure out of it. Which is the thing that disturbs me about hunters, how they claim its such an "enjoyable" experience.
February 28, 20224 yr Author 31 minutes ago, martin-w said: Yes but I didn't kill it It makes all the difference when you hire a 'hit man' doesn't it Martin? Unfortunately meat like deer and elk and birds like quail and pheasant aren't available at our local supermarkets. I never hunted except for the table. And in that sense I have killed a lot of animals and birds and caught hundreds of fish. Our freezer always had trout in it. It might surprise you to know that most of the Fish and Game professionals and biologists I worked with at the wildlife refuge were also duck and geese hunters who would go out and shoot a couple of birds before work in the morning for dinner that night. There is also the problem of overpopulation of wildlife, especially deer and geese. So hunting limits are raised and more people are encouraged to take up hunting. For deer it is more humane to kill them for food than it is allow them to starve in the winter due to overpopulation. In this sense it becomes legal to hunt females too. This might enlighten some animal-lovers. I don't know if they love animals or hate hunters, but they become problem when overpopulation of game animals and birds is present. Perhaps they would rather see an animal or bird starve to death rather than see it humanely shot. Here's the study on snow geese: https://americanornithology.org/lifting-hunting-limits-hasnt-solved-the-snow-goose-overpopulation-problem/ Noel Edited February 28, 20224 yr by birdguy The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
February 28, 20224 yr Author 33 minutes ago, martin-w said: Which is the thing that disturbs me about hunters, how they claim its such an "enjoyable" experience If you've never done it how can you condemn it? It takes quite a bit of skill to track a buck all day and then take the only shot you're going to have an opportunity for before the sun goes down. Or to lure a trout out of it's hiding place in a stream with an artificial fly you tied yourself and land it before it gets away. More skill, I would presume, than a trawler scooping up a ton of cod for you to buy at your local fish market. Or plucking down shilling on the counter and pointing to a dead fish in the showcase and saying, "Give me that one." Both my trout and your cod are going to end up in our stomachs. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
February 28, 20224 yr I agree Noel. I was taught to never shoot anything that I wasn't going to eat. I was never able to bag a snipe though... Fishing is great. If you are holding a pole while sitting by the river, you are perfectly normal. If you just go and sit by the river, enjoying just being there, you are a bit odd. Fresh caught fish, of course; are the best. Edited February 28, 20224 yr by Penzoil3
February 28, 20224 yr Author 32 minutes ago, Penzoil3 said: I was taught to never shoot anything that I wasn't going to eat There are two types of hunting that have always disgusted me. The late 19th century buffalo hunters who hunted not for sport or not for meat but for hides. I could have condoned it if they had limited themselves. But they damned near made the species extinct. There are just a few small herds left. But the ones who disgust me the most are British fox hunters. No sport in that at all. They follow a pack of dogs on horseback after a lone fox and either they or the dogs kill it and they hold up the fox tail as a trophy. What sport is there in that? Riding the horses? Or watching a pack of dogs tear a fox limb from limb? Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
February 28, 20224 yr Author 53 minutes ago, Penzoil3 said: Fishing is great. If you are holding a pole while sitting by the river, you are perfectly normal. If you just go and sit by the river, enjoying just being there, you are a bit odd. I'm guilty of having done both Sue. After my first wife died I sat by the river that ran through Toyoka one afternoon and just stared at it. It brought a great deal of comfort being alone and away from all those who were trying to comfort me with sympathy platitudes. Noel Edited February 28, 20224 yr by birdguy The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
March 1, 20224 yr 19 hours ago, birdguy said: If you've never done it how can you condemn it? I didn't say I was condemning IT. I eat meat so I can't. If a person has to hunt fort food, fair enough. I said I was disturbed by those who enjoy killing animals they hunt. 19 hours ago, birdguy said: It takes quite a bit of skill to track a buck all day Its not skill that's relevant to my distaste. Its how the hunter "feels" when he shoots a lead projectile through and animals body and extinguishes its life. Anybody who enjoys that is sick. And something tells me that those who hunt for sport, wouldn't do it unless they enjoyed it. Very disturbing. Edited March 1, 20224 yr by martin-w
March 1, 20224 yr 17 hours ago, birdguy said: The late 19th century buffalo hunters who hunted not for sport or not for meat but for hides. You should condemn those who do it for sport too. A sport is something you do as a pastime, for enjoyment and part of the process of hunting is murdering an animal. Animals shouldn't be killed "for sport". 18 hours ago, birdguy said: But the ones who disgust me the most are British fox hunters. No sport in that at all. Fox hunting is abhorrent. As for "no sport in it at all"... so you think its okay to extinguish an animals life if its a fun sport? And would you enjoy watching that animal die? How would you feel?
March 1, 20224 yr Author 1 hour ago, martin-w said: so you think its okay to extinguish an animals life if its a fun sport? I enjoyed when I was able to do it. I've hunted deer, antelope, pheasant, quail, ducks, geese and trout. How do you feel about hunting birds? That takes a great deal of skill hitting a bird in flight. How about fishing? That also takes skill. Do you think lift a fish out of the water and clubbing it on the head to kill it is wrong? How do you feel about people who work in slaughter houses killing cattle, pigs, sheep and I don't know about the UK, but also horses in France? It's OK for them to look at an animal in the face and kill it so you can have food on the table? Leather for your jacket? Furs for your woman's coat? When I lived in Wyoming and hunted a couple of times a week I had a neighbor who was like you and asked me how I could kill Bambi. But he always accept the venison or duck or pheasant I have him. Man has been killing animals for food forever. Some of us enjoy it for sport and recreation. If you have a problem with that it's your problem not mine. If you are trying to make those of us who enjoy hunting feel bad about it you are spitting up the wrong tree. Noel Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
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