Light pollution is broken in SU10(Beta)

[roi1862 611]

10 minutes ago, Krakin said:

there is no need to panic or be pessimistic

I am neither, just hoping. Hope is a good thing 🙂 

[Keto Ketchup 240]

12 hours ago, Mace said:

Related to this, it would also be nice if the rural roads didn't have street lights on them.  Or at least so many street lights.  It's a small matter though, minor in the overall picture.

So much this. As a rural pilot, I don't even bother flying at night because it's just over-the-top unrealistic. I tried to go in and remove the LM textures for roads, since it would make the area I fly look way more realistic; even in towns, street lights are not that common, and they are definitely not uniformly spaced like in MSFS. Unfortunately I've not found the right file yet. Though now that I think of it, these street lights float above the roads rather than emit from the roads like a typical light map...

Anybody have any ideas how to disable ALL street lights? Surely there's a config file or something where I can just change a 1 to a 0 and turn off the power, LOL.

[ThomseN_inc 1,128]

12 hours ago, Mace said:

Related to this, it would also be nice if the rural roads didn't have street lights on them.  Or at least so many street lights.  It's a small matter though, minor in the overall picture.

Agreed. I'd like to add that we don't need every single football/soccer/baseball or whatever field lit up at night. 😄 or at the same time.

[lwt1971 7,456]

Maybe this is a regression due to the reworking of low level clouds details/rendering (then again, does this problem happen in both live and non-live weather?)... in any case, hopefully something they can fix the before SU10 release to restore the old casting/reflecting/scattering of ground lights on clouds.

Edited July 21, 2022 by lwt1971

[Noel 4,563]

I remember lots of complaints about night lighting initially in this, then when significant changes were made people were happier with it.  Bizarre...

[Langeveldt 289]

1 hour ago, Noel said:

I remember lots of complaints about night lighting initially in this, then when significant changes were made people were happier with it.  Bizarre...

Yeah, many people find the whole sepia blob thing acceptable, and always have done..  Or then post a screenshot 1,000 feet AGL and say "This is great! Look how great night lighting is!" Because they aren't able to see more than a few NM anyway.

Is there any way to disable the sepia blobs totally for those of us that would just rather they weren't there?

[Flic1 999]

1 hour ago, Langeveldt said:

Is there any way to disable the sepia blobs totally for those of us that would just rather they weren't there?

Nope...the only remedy is to fly low.  They become more apparent at airliner altitudes.  I think they are acceptable but need to be pushed further out as you do see that glow in the distance IRL and it does the job pretty well.  I know they had pushed them out a few updates ago but to me it seems the radius has shrunk...

[DD_Arthur 1,091]

20 hours ago, Mace said:

Related to this, it would also be nice if the rural roads didn't have street lights on them.  Or at least so many street lights.  It's a small matter though, minor in the overall picture.

This. It’s not just rural roads either. In the UK and certainly France no major roads have continuous lighting like the sim now provides.

[ca_metal 2,033]

10 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

This. It’s not just rural roads either. In the UK and certainly France no major roads have continuous lighting like the sim now provides.

It’s just a matter of data availability. I’m pretty sure Jörg talked about that already. Eventually will be there, just not yet. There’s a lot to add, actually. “The World is really big”.

I hope to be here for the release of MSFS 2030. 

Edited July 21, 2022 by ca_metal

[roi1862 611]

4 hours ago, Langeveldt said:

Is there any way to disable the sepia blobs totally for those of us that would just rather they weren't there?

Try LOD 400 or edit the cfg file to try even higher. FPS not gonna be pretty tho... 

[Langeveldt 289]

1 hour ago, roi1862 said:

Try LOD 400 or edit the cfg file to try even higher. FPS not gonna be pretty tho... 

Yeah appreciate that, but not willing to sacrifice my frames.  I don't need crisp street lights all the way out to the horizon, but I really was hoping by now we could get rid of the sepia blobs.  It still amazes me that with such a beauiful daytime sim, night flying has all these distant blobs considered fine by most people. 

[Mace 1,954]

1 hour ago, Langeveldt said:

Yeah appreciate that, but not willing to sacrifice my frames.  I don't need crisp street lights all the way out to the horizon, but I really was hoping by now we could get rid of the sepia blobs.  It still amazes me that with such a beauiful daytime sim, night flying has all these distant blobs considered fine by most people. 

I don't think most people consider it fine.  Well I guess I can't speak for "most people" but I know a lot of people don't like that and would like to see improvements there.

I think in the short-term the most elegant solution would be to go somewhere in-between sepia blobs and crisp lights to the horizon.  Neither are accurate.  If they could implement a mid-tier level of detail it might 1) look a bit less bad, and 2) eliminate a sharp dividing line between fine detail and distant sepia blobs.

What would be best would be a gradual transition of LOD from crisp to...a blob.  heh.

[Langeveldt 289]

17 minutes ago, Mace said:

I don't think most people consider it fine.  Well I guess I can't speak for "most people" but I know a lot of people don't like that and would like to see improvements there.

I think in the short-term the most elegant solution would be to go somewhere in-between sepia blobs and crisp lights to the horizon.  Neither are accurate.  If they could implement a mid-tier level of detail it might 1) look a bit less bad, and 2) eliminate a sharp dividing line between fine detail and distant sepia blobs.

What would be best would be a gradual transition of LOD from crisp to...a blob.  heh.

 I don't remember it being so bad in P3D.  Maybe we are spoiled with all the other visuals nowadays.

I guess wherever they are drawing these blobs from, make them slightly higher resolution?