August 2, 20223 yr In order to avoid "jaggyness" on my G1000 (non analog) panels I've had to max out my Render Scaling setting. I tried DLSS in SU10 and the jaggies are gone.....but didn't care much for the washed out appearance or the way airspeed, altitude, Torque, etc. values would blur as they changed. I realize setting Render Scaling at 200 creates a significant performance hit and was curious if anyone else has experienced this and has a solution other than what I've done. I have an i7-11700 and a GTX3070. Currently using my old FS9/FSX monitor (1080p @ 60hz). Running most settings at Ultra/High locked at 30fps and V-Sync on to get rid of tearing. Thanks!
August 2, 20223 yr I have an Intel Core i7-10700KF and Asus GeForce RTX 3070 8GB TUF so pretty close to yours. I run the sim at 2560 x 1140 and render scale 100, and did not notice ‘jaggyness’... maybe because of the extra resolution. But I guess it is one of those things where everyone will have their own perception of what is acceptable. The resolution of the real world G1000 screen is 1024 x 768 (according to Google), and might even show some jaggyness if you got really close? I am sure there is someone here who an comment on that. What is your antialiasing setting in the sim? Have you tried to play around with that vs. render scaling? As I undestand it, with render scale of 200, your rig renders at twice the resolution before down sampling to the screen resolution. I am not super tech savvy, but it must equate some level of super sampling and/or antialiasing. Maybe it is time to consider a monitor upgrade as well 😉 Your rig seems to be OK for it. Nothing like having a good technical justification! ... and I assume you are running at your screens native resolution? Edited August 2, 20223 yr by SuperKaro2014
August 2, 20223 yr You'll always get a better result in terms of graphics clarity and FPS if you set your sim resolution higher and then scale down the Render Scale, rather than set the sim resolution lower and scale up the Render Scale. For example, I have a seven-year-old machine but set the sim resolution to 4K and then set the Render Scale to 60. I get perfect results even on my antiquated equipment. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
August 2, 20223 yr Commercial Member 3 minutes ago, David Mills said: You'll always get a better result in terms of graphics clarity and FPS if you set your sim resolution higher and then scale down the Render Scale, rather than set the sim resolution lower and scale up the Render Scale. For example, I have a seven-year-old machine but set the sim resolution to 4K and then set the Render Scale to 60. I get perfect results even on my antiquated equipment. Interesting, I will try this with my 1440p monitor. So I would need to set MSFS res to 1080 and then upscale using render? Discord | YouTube | iFly Schedules 34" Odyssey OLED G8 175Hz | 3440X1440 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB | G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case
August 2, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, iFlySimX said: Interesting, I will try this with my 1440p monitor. So I would need to set MSFS res to 1080 and then upscale using render? No, just the opposite. Set MSFS res to 4K (3840x2160) and then scale down until you reach 1440p -- which translates to a Render Scale of 65. So set the Render Scale to 65 after setting MSFS to 4K (3840x2160). Edited August 2, 20223 yr by David Mills Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
August 2, 20223 yr Commercial Member 2 minutes ago, David Mills said: No, just the opposite. Set MSFS res to 4K (3840x2160) and then scale down until you reach 1440p -- which translates to a Render Scale of 65. So set the Render Scale to 65 after setting MSFS to 4K. Can't set MSFS to 4k as I have a 1440p monitor... Discord | YouTube | iFly Schedules 34" Odyssey OLED G8 175Hz | 3440X1440 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB | G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case
August 2, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, iFlySimX said: Can't set MSFS to 4k as I have a 1440p monitor... I wasn't aware that MSFS removed resolution-options from its menu that aren't available on a particular user's display. MSFS gives me lots of graphics-resolution choices that my TV/monitor can't match. If worse comes to worse, buy a cheap 4K TV at Walmart. They work perfectly with MSFS and you can scale the display any way you want. That's what I use. With most TVs, you're limited to 60 FPS refresh rate. But few people get anywhere near that anyway. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
August 2, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, iFlySimX said: Can't set MSFS to 4k as I have a 1440p monitor... I was waiting to see how you would have achieved getting the sim to render native 4k on a 1440p monitor for you to then scale it back... Glad i didn't miss any secret settings. As to the OP... While i do think that tacking on a little extra renderscaling for a slight enhancement isnt too bad ( im at 115% myself) I personally think its counterproductive to use DLSS + maxing out the renderscaling.. But if that method works for you then who am i to question. As far as i know the DLSS implementation will presently give fuzzy gauges .. Asobo has acknowledged this and one can assume they will try to address that. AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
August 2, 20223 yr Author 17 minutes ago, David Mills said: No, just the opposite. Set MSFS res to 4K (3840x2160) and then scale down until you reach 1440p -- which translates to a Render Scale of 65. So set the Render Scale to 65 after setting MSFS to 4K (3840x2160). Same situation. I'm running a 1080p monitor with MSFS at 1080p (1980x1080 - 60 hz). AA is set to TAA. Texture Resolution - Ultra V-sync on Frame Rate locked at 30fps DX11 Anisotropic - 16X Texture Supersampling - 8x8 I'm not using any outside graphics tool like Nvidia Inspector...I did with FS9 and FSX
August 2, 20223 yr Here's a fundamental question -- a question to which I don't know the answer: Does everyone see the same resolution choices in the MSFS graphics menu? Or does MSFS detect the monitor or TV resolution and then remove choices from the menu that can't be matched by the display hardware? Again, I see all kinds of resolution choices that my TV/monitor cannot possibly display correctly (at any render scaling). Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
August 2, 20223 yr Author 11 minutes ago, Maxis said: I was waiting to see how you would have achieved getting the sim to render native 4k on a 1440p monitor for you to then scale it back... Glad i didn't miss any secret settings. As to the OP... While i do think that tacking on a little extra renderscaling for a slight enhancement isnt too bad ( im at 115% myself) I personally think its counterproductive to use DLSS + maxing out the renderscaling.. But if that method works for you then who am i to question. As far as i know the DLSS implementation will presently give fuzzy gauges .. Asobo has acknowledged this and one can assume they will try to address that. I reverted back to SU9 because REX wouldn't work in SU10 (my default cloud generation in Live Weather still only works 50% of the time). So...DLSS isn't an option at this point for me. I tried it in SU10 Beta but hated the way it would blur certain instrument values; airspeed, altitude, torque, etc.
August 2, 20223 yr Author 2 minutes ago, David Mills said: Here's a fundamental question -- a question to which I don't know the answer: Does everyone see the same resolution choices in the MSFS graphics menu? Or does MSFS detect the monitor or TV resolution and then remove choices from the menu that can't be matched by the display hardware? Again, I see all kinds of resolution choices that my TV/monitor cannot possibly display correctly (at any render scaling). My choices are maxed out at the native 1080p resolution of my current monitor.
August 2, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, David Mills said: Here's a fundamental question -- a question to which I don't know the answer: Does everyone see the same resolution choices in the MSFS graphics menu? Short answer No.. Your on a 4K tv .. which is typically a little more flexible in resolution options which is why In your drop down you have all those options. The majority of us are on Monitors where the highest native hardware resolution is the highest option available .. ( So no 4k option on a 1440p or 1080p monitor) Edited August 2, 20223 yr by Maxis AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
August 2, 20223 yr Thank you! I'm learning something today. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
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