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XP12 RC2 and Zibo 738 Delight...

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If the magenta line on the ND didn't flicker on my AMD GPU (where is Zink, Sid?!!), Zibo's 737 would be the only airliner I use in XP12.

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2 hours ago, Bjoern said:

If the magenta line on the ND didn't flicker on my AMD GPU (where is Zink, Sid?!!), Zibo's 737 would be the only airliner I use in XP12.

Sorry for that. 

Alexis ( @Alec ) had initially bought an AMD, which he was able to sell and finaly allowed him to buy an RTX 3070 which made him super-happy in MFS and now in XP12 too...

Edited by jcomm

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4 hours ago, Bjoern said:

If the magenta line on the ND didn't flicker on my AMD GPU (where is Zink, Sid?!!), Zibo's 737 would be the only airliner I use in XP12.

Soon. (TM) Still AMD's fault.

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/271923-linux-amd-plugins-still-flickering/&do=findComment&comment=2457857

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19 hours ago, blingthinger said:

I know.

What I still fail to understand and, frankly, accept is why I, as a Linux user, must wait for AMD to fix their f'n Windows drivers to get Zink in XP. It's like dinner going cold because nobody is allowed to eat beacuse sibling B is running late and no base for a healthy family relationship.

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1 hour ago, Bjoern said:

I know.

What I still fail to understand and, frankly, accept is why I, as a Linux user, must wait for AMD to fix their f'n Windows drivers to get Zink in XP. It's like dinner going cold because nobody is allowed to eat beacuse sibling B is running late and no base for a healthy family relationship.

Haha.. I gotcha now. Not only would it satisfy our itch, but we would potentially be providing critical debugging information for the spoiled/favorite child. Cinderella just can't win.

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1 hour ago, Bjoern said:

I know.

What I still fail to understand and, frankly, accept is why I, as a Linux user, must wait for AMD to fix their f'n Windows drivers to get Zink in XP. It's like dinner going cold because nobody is allowed to eat beacuse sibling B is running late and no base for a healthy family relationship.

I hate to say it but probably because Linux isn't even a blip on their radar...

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1 hour ago, psolk said:

I hate to say it but probably because Linux isn't even a blip on their radar...

"On the radar" isn't the issue here. The OS versions share a common code base. Shipping Zink would certainly require some significant changes to said code base that they probably want to do just once even though Linux would work already. Now, a git repository (or whatever they use) should make that easy....so I suppose it could be some 'ugly step child' syndrome. Don't want Win users to flip out when Linux suddenly looks way better for (what could be) a couple months.

Linux is more on their radar than you'd think, simply because a fair number of 3rd party devs use it as their primary OS. It does get a disproportionate amount of attention by LR and there's a good reason.

What's more, the fix for this particular issue (for Linux and win users) is coming from the Linux community. In other words. Linux development is saving LR's butts a ton of work that they really don't want to do: create a SDK for 3rd party devs to talk nicely with Vulkan.

Bless Zibo for making his 738 Linux-compatible.

Also, though irrelevant here, if you looked up those stats for the enterprise server world, it's a different story.

 

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2 hours ago, psolk said:

Linux isn't even a blip on their radar...

more than half the developers are Linux only.

And also

https://80.lv/articles/steam-deck-has-reportedly-sold-over-1-million-units/

So more like a radar full of ECM blips.

I'm seriously considering making a lot of my freeware linux/mac only in the future, its pretty hard not to fight the urge to, like many I already pretty much don't test on windows at all and they get everything later.

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23 hours ago, blingthinger said:

Haha.. I gotcha now. Not only would it satisfy our itch, but we would potentially be providing critical debugging information for the spoiled/favorite child. Cinderella just can't win.

Exactly that.

 

23 hours ago, psolk said:

I hate to say it but probably because Linux isn't even a blip on their radar...

Laminar fortunately does not care about global numbers and develops XP mostly on Macs, which is quite similar to Linux. Committing to those OSes was a smart move as XP has been owning the largest part of their commercial civilian flight simulator market for years now.

(To be fair, FS20 apparently also runs almmost fine on Linux now, but only with Proton/SteamPlay as a third party compatibility layer in between.)

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4 hours ago, Bjoern said:

Exactly that.

There are reports on org that it's fixed on linux in rc3? I don't have any plugins to test it with...

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A friend of mine with a Macbook pro, with a model he bought specifically to be able to run XP12, has been opening support tickets since e nstalled the sim more than one month ago because he is simply not allowed to takeoff from any of he airports / airfields around Lisbon 😕

In the first beta versions he could still fly from somewhere else and and there, but since the latest betas and now the RCs, when approaching Lisbon the sim freezes 😕

So, it's even problematic in MACs...

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17 hours ago, blingthinger said:

There are reports on org that it's fixed on linux in rc3? I don't have any plugins to test it with...

  • Xchecklist: 2D OK
  • Avitab: 2D OK, 3D OK
  • Carenado Saab 340: 2D OK
  • Thranda Beaver + REP: 2D OK, 3D OK
  • ToLiss A321 + NEO: 2D OK, 3D FAIL

Somebody pinch me, if only for the 2D things.

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5 hours ago, Bjoern said:

 

Somebody pinch me, if only for the 2D things.

Nice. I've been watching the AMD windows driver releases but they aren't very descriptive. Haven't noticed any similar reports fro Win users. Maybe Cinderella won one.

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