After months of flying without the 60 second pause after I supposedly fixed it it's back.  I'm at the point where after 41 years of desktop simulation I'm very close to just donating it all and getting out of the hobby. Words cannot describe how frustrating this is.

Several months ago I spent weeks trying to figure it out after extensive and exhaustive searching.

I turned off ALL security stuff, I don't surf or email so I didn't care, I just wanted it to stop.  No help.

I did a lot of other things.  Then I noticed it was "gameoverlayui.exe" from Steam causing it.  So not only did I untick it in Steam but used Process Lasso to force it off and it worked.  I had been flying pause free for a while since then.

Now, yesterday, it's back.  I checked all my Windows, Steam, and Process Lasso settings and nothing has changed.  Could it have been the latest MSFS mini update of a week or so ago?

I'm at the point where I would gladly pay a substantial amount of US $ to anyone who could solve this for me as I'm worn out and frustrated.

Thanks.

Jack

Puhh Jack, sorry for that if i could help i would, do you had a windows update last days, weeks ? Are you on Win11 or Win10 ?

cheers 😉

1 minute ago, pmplayer said:

Puhh Jack, sorry for that if i could help i would, do you had a windows update last days, weeks ? Are you on Win11 or Win10 ?

cheers 😉

Thanks.  Windows 10.  PC can’t run 11.

There was an update the other day but despite checking all the settings (I screenshot everything) there are no apparent changes.  If it is Windows related I’ll be darned if I can figure it out.  

Double check that FSUIPC auto-save hasn't been re-enabled.   If you don't run FSUIPC -- then forget I posted this.

Do you mean it pauses for 60 seconds?  Or just for a second or so every 60 seconds? 
If it is the latter, I know one of the main causes of this was a desktop screen changer.  Disabling that solved it for a few people.
There is also the autosave if it happens in the missions (it autosaves every 60 seconds).

For me, I am getting the four second (roughly) pause just after loading into the aircraft and looking around for the first time.  It only happens once, but it is bloody annoying.
I have seen this happen to Jonathon Beckett and AvAngel in recent videos also - It seems a relatively new issue.

 

3 minutes ago, Mace said:

Double check that FSUIPC auto-save hasn't been re-enabled.   If you don't run FSUIPC -- then forget I posted this.

Thanks.  Haven’t used that since P3D.

7 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Do you mean it pauses for 60 seconds?  Or just for a second or so every 60 seconds? 
If it is the latter, I know one of the main causes of this was a desktop screen changer.  Disabling that solved it for a few people.
There is also the autosave if it happens in the missions (it autosaves every 60 seconds).

For me, I am getting the four second (roughly) pause just after loading into the aircraft and looking around for the first time.  It only happens once, but it is bloody annoying.
I have seen this happen to Jonathon Beckett and AvAngel in recent videos also - It seems a relatively new issue.

 

I'm using a digital stopwatch.  It pauses every 60 seconds for 1/2 a second, it's extremely precise.  It's like something is making a call out every minute.  It was solved by force disabling steamoverlay.  But now that pause is back.

I don't use any desktop screensavers, never have.

I also never fly missions.

I fortunately don't have that four second pause but I did have that way back in the FSX days.  

Thanks for your suggestions.  I appreciate it.

Edited February 7, 20233 yr by Jack_Sawyer

Sometimes updates can reset toggles. All those settings you say hadn't changed - try changing them back to when you originally had the issue. Reboot - then change them back to the "fixed" settings. Could be a flag somewhere. Another thing you might try - run Task Manager - keep the processes window open - see if you can tell which process becomes active on the same time table. ALso check it when MSFS is not running - it could be a system thing that is only noticeable when MSFS is running.

 

Good luck

1 hour ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

I'm using a digital stopwatch.  It pauses every 60 seconds for 1/2 a second, it's extremely precise.  It's like something is making a call out every minute.  It was solved by force disabling steamoverlay.  But now that pause is back.

If what Vic said above doesn't work -- I would download procmon -- aka Process Monitor (it's a successor program to FileMon) by SysInternals.

That prog can give a list of exactly what file is being accessed and when.  You might be able to determine what is going on at those  60 second intervals from its list.

1 hour ago, vgbaron said:

Sometimes updates can reset toggles. All those settings you say hadn't changed - try changing them back to when you originally had the issue. Reboot - then change them back to the "fixed" settings. Could be a flag somewhere. Another thing you might try - run Task Manager - keep the processes window open - see if you can tell which process becomes active on the same time table. ALso check it when MSFS is not running - it could be a system thing that is only noticeable when MSFS is running.

 

Good luck

Thank you.  I'll do that in a little bit.  What I have to do now is set up my GoPro on a tripod to video the screen as I run Task manager because things flick on and off that so darned fast there's now way I could ever hope to catch it. If I video it and watch it over and over on my iMac then maybe I can detect a pattern.

During the troubleshooting of this last summer I even had Steam install Skyrim and I played it with max graphics and there wasn't one pause.  It has to be MSFS.

5 minutes ago, Mace said:

If what Vic said above doesn't work -- I would download procmon -- aka Process Monitor (it's a successor program to FileMon) by SysInternals.

That prog can give a list of exactly what file is being accessed and when.  You might be able to determine what is going on at those  60 second intervals from its list.

Thanks for this. I'll have to look for where I can download it.

1 minute ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

Thanks for this. I'll have to look for where I can download it.

I think it's here:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon

 

2 minutes ago, Mace said:

I think it's here:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon

 

Many thanks!

3 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

Thank you.  I'll do that in a little bit.  What I have to do now is set up my GoPro on a tripod to video the screen as I run Task manager because things flick on and off that so darned fast there's now way I could ever hope to catch it. If I video it and watch it over and over on my iMac then maybe I can detect a pattern.

That's why ProcMon is superior to trying to view something in Task Manager.

With ProcMon you can have it halt the display of activity (by default it constantly scrolls...) and in so doing pinpoint the exact file being accessed and the exact time stamp.

38 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

During the troubleshooting of this last summer I even had Steam install Skyrim and I played it with max graphics and there wasn't one pause.  It has to be MSFS.

Pauses tend to be more CPU related rather than GPU, and MSFS uses far more threads than Skyrim would, so I think it is more related to a process pinching a main thread that MSFS is also running on, as you suspect also.

In any case, it sounds like you are on to it and will find the problem with the method you are going to use.  It will be interesting to see what it is.

I really hope you find it Jack!