February 7, 20233 yr Author 1 hour ago, Bert Pieke said: Hi Jack, Have you simply watched Task Manager to see what might be happening every 60 sec? Run MSFS in windowed mode, just park an airplane at a simple airport. Start up Task Manager (right click on the bottom Windows bar) and select the Processes tab. Click on the %CPU bar at the top which sorts the running processes by CPU usage. Sit and watch and see what Processes appear and disappear in the top section. Hi Bert and thanks. Yes but it’s too fast. It flickers whatever it is. I have the GoPro set up. I’m finally able to sit here and see what I can see. Just turned on the PC. Will keep ya’ll posted. Jack Sawyer
February 7, 20233 yr Author 1 hour ago, Mace said: Don't let ProcMon scare you, it monitors way more information than you need. Run ProcMon and the sim at the same time. ProcMon will have a bunch of scrolling data on-screen. With the sim running, let the sim do its 1 minute pause thing, and note the exact system time of the pause (in your taskbar, system tray, click on the clock/time), and I would probably let it do another pause and note that time as well. Then switch to ProcMon, and in ProcMon's menu's there is an option to stop the auto-scroll. On the left of the ProcMon window will be a time stamp for each line of data -- find the exact time where your pause occurred...and you'll see all sorts of data on what files were accessed and their paths...hopefully that will shed light on the process(es) that were causing the pause. Grant you, I'm not in front of my fs rig at the moment, and I may not remember precisely the ProcMon bits, but suffice to say it is a very useful program that can be overwhelming, but you only need it for this one specific thing. To see what the system is doing at one precise moment. @Bert Pieke I think he tried looking at Task Manager but that is often an exercise in futility because the offending cpu-hog appears and disappears in a flash, before you can see what it was sometimes. ProcMon is more of a log utility and gives the exact path of the file being accessed. @Jack_Sawyer you could also have JetLine take a look at it since they built your rig. They'd probably charge you a fee, but I think it would be worth it, I know pauses like that can be very aggravating. Thanks. Going to try this now. Will post back with any results. I have ProcMon running and just loaded MSFS but a box popped up telling me I had a monitor program running and I should stop running it. I closed the box and am letting MSFS run. Hopefully it will. As for Jetline, I tried. They never return my calls so I don’t know if they’re even dead or alive. Jack Sawyer
February 7, 20233 yr 3 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said: It flickers whatever it is. I have the GoPro set up. Just don’t do the time lapse then 😉 good luck! Phil Leaven i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"
February 8, 20233 yr 21 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said: box popped up telling me I had a monitor program running and I should stop running it. The GTNXI will complain.. only rebooting the PC after will fix that. Bert
February 8, 20233 yr Author 5 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said: The GTNXI will complain.. only rebooting the PC after will fix that. Yes, it wouldn’t even allow the TDS 750 to run. Not at all. I used ProcMon and did what he described but I’ll be doggone if I can figure it out. So I copied every line from 6:57 PM to 6:58 PM and then from 6:58 PM to 6:59 PM and pasted them into a couple of Notepad files. I can post them if it would help as I can’t see any rhyme or reason yet it did to the precise 60 second pause nonsense. Jack Sawyer
February 8, 20233 yr Author 1 hour ago, DAD said: Did you check whether this overlay thingammy was enabled again, eg after a Steam update? Just a shot in the dark though as I don’t use MSFS on Steam… Hello, yes, the first thing I did. It was unticked in Steam and then in Process Lasso it was still in the box where it's forced to not run. Jack Sawyer
February 8, 20233 yr Author 50 minutes ago, DAD said: Just don’t do the time lapse then 😉 good luck! Time lapse? Why on Earth would I do that? That would defeat the purpose wouldn't it? 🥺 Jack Sawyer
February 8, 20233 yr Author I can see the sim pausing. Here's what I did so far: Ran ProcMon and then the sim. Waited for the pauses to start, it took several minutes to actually start but when they did it was at precise 60 second intervals. I let it to it three times. Then I did as he advised above in this post, I then copied all the entries from those time intervals and saved them to a Notepad file. I quit the sim and ProCMon and set up the GoPro and ran Task Manager. I waited for the pauses and when they happened I had my iPhone's stopwatch going so I could know when the pause happened and when it did I watched Task Manager but didn't see anything pop up. So I ran the GoPro and waited and video'd it but again, I didn't see anything obvious. I haven't had a chance to look at the video yet though. Here's the notepad files if anyone's interested. Jack Sawyer
February 8, 20233 yr Author Just now, Bert Pieke said: Does the GoPro not allow you to look at the movie in slo-mo? Dunno. It's been a long time since I used it, I used to use it hiking two years ago. I'm gonna load the video into my Mac now and look at it. Jack Sawyer
February 8, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said: 6:59:32.3836283 PM Steam.exe 6560 TCP Send DESKTOP-23PL795.attlocal.net:49948 -> 162-254-199-181.valve.net:27033 SUCCESS Length: 56, startime: 101608, endtime: 101614, seqnum: 0, connid: 0 This looks like Steam doing something.. Bert
February 8, 20233 yr Author 1 minute ago, Bert Pieke said: This looks like Steam doing something.. Wow, good eye and nicely done Bert. You've always amazed me. I have no idea what it's doing though. Earlier today I went through every last Steam setting and made sure everything that could be unticked was unticked. Jack Sawyer
February 8, 20233 yr 7 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said: Wow, good eye and nicely done Bert. You've always amazed me. I have no idea what it's doing though. Earlier today I went through every last Steam setting and made sure everything that could be unticked was unticked. You can set a filter in Procmon to include or exclude processes.. You could look for steam only or exclude flightsim and see what else happens.. Bert
February 8, 20233 yr I don't know what gave anyone the idea that posting a 500+ line log file to the forums is acceptable, but to be clear it is NOT. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 8, 20233 yr Author Just now, Bob Scott said: I don't know what gave anyone the idea that posting a 500+ line log file to the forums is acceptable, but to be clear it is NOT. Gosh, sorry Bob. Honestly, if I knew this I would not have posted it and I didn’t know it was that many lines. Can i delete these? Can you? Again, my sincere apologies. Jack Sawyer
February 8, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said: Gosh, sorry Bob. Honestly, if I knew this I would not have posted it and I didn’t know it was that many lines. Can i delete these? Can you? Again, my sincere apologies. Zip up the file and put it in Dropbox. Then you can post the link. Edited February 8, 20233 yr by Bert Pieke Bert
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